I have been watching for older cars at work.  The oldest cars I've seen in
the last year were made in 1964.  They were PS-2 three bay hoppers, very
similar to the SHS three bay cars.  They have 36" wheels as do the ACF three
bay hoppers of the same vintage.  If anyone wants pictures of these cars,
let me know and I can e mail you some jpeg shots off list.  

Greg Elems
Reno, NV





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