ALL For those interested in prototype info on the ATSF 4-8-4s [3765/3776/2900] classes, I recommend Farrington's "The Santa Fe's Big Three" published in 1972. It covers the 4-6-4, 4-8-4, and 2-10-4 classes in excruciating detail. Another
good source is Woorley's "Iron Horses of the Santa Fe Trail". IIRC, the 5011 class 2-10-4s were used on the PRR Sandusky line in 1958 or 1959 for hauling coal to the Great Lakes coal piers. The first batch of 2-10-4s - 5001-5010, were built in 1938, the remainder, 5011-5020, were built in 1943/44 with the larger oil tenders also seen on many of the 3776 class 4-8-4s and all of the 2900 class 4-8-4s. They don't look like anything used on another road. The "rectangular" oil tenders of earlier ATSF classes like the 3765 class 4-8-4s and 3460 class 4-6-4s bear a superficial resemblance to tenders on the RI and CB&Q. The ATSF 2-10-4s had dimensions that made them unsuitable for use on anything but "Lines West"[of Pittsburgh] on the PRR. I think PRR management had a lot of external pressure from the WPB in the selection of the basic design for the J1. In short, the ATSF Northerns [all basicly built to the same specs] are a beautiful engine, but they will never be confused with anything else. The same can be said for one of the best looking enfines of all time, the Van Sweringen Berkshires, epitomized in the NKP S-3 class. Many a modeler ones one even though it does not fit his era, geographic region, or road. BTW, ATSF called their 4-8-4s "Heavy Mountains" rather than "Northerns". Jim Stapleton To REPLY to the list, use REPLY ALL; to reply to the sender, use REPLY. For those of you on DIGEST mode, all REPLY messages go to the list (remember to edit the SUBJECT of your message). Change message settings, use our CALENDAR or LINKS, view shared files or photos, view the list archives, GO TO http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
