I have built some Quality Craft and Kinsman kits. I put the basic body 
together, then cover it with .010 styrene. Now you can add all styrene parts, 
angles, zee's. hat sections, or what ever. About 15 years ago, I did 6 Thrall 
All door box cars (Quality Craft). They look very good and I have gotten a lot 
of compliments on them. 
    I have never built any Perma-Bilt cars, so can't comment on them. 
    I have a couple of the Wisconsin Central Stock Cars, and you should be able 
to add styrene parts to them. You would have to use super glue for them. 
    I would build the cars because they are different from the RTR.
Roy J Meissner
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Thomas Baker 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 11:13 AM
  Subject: {S-Scale List} building older kits


  Dave Engle and I discussed this issue, but I would like to get the views of 
additional members of the group

  I have the following older kits and have thought of assembling them. 

  First group is four KINSMAN seven-paneled box car kits. I have specific 
candidates from the prototype world for these kits. An M&StL single-sheathed 
box [not the Fowler version], a GB&W single-sheathed car, and two other cars. I 
would replace the side sheathing and the z-braces with styrene, harvest some 
rivets from old AF box cars for some added detail, but I would not add the 
bolts on the z-braces. 

  Second group is three Perma-Bilt steel box car kits. First off the metal roof 
is notoriously inaccurate and it would go to be replaced by a wooden roof with 
properly-sized plastic t-strips for roof ribs and then would have styrene 
raised panels. Of course, rivet detail would be lacking. I have the C&EI car. 
With the correct yellow lettering this car looks better than the plastic AM 
version done a few years back. I have a Muncie and Western outside-braced car 
with steel sides. ODD. Was there such a prototype? And I have a CB&Q car with 
the roof missing, but that is no loss in my view.

  Third group is three stock cars, two Northeastern, one Wisconsin Central 
model of a SOO LINE saw-tooth cattle car. Again the cars would lack rivet 
detail, but then they would not be contest-quality models and would probably 
look good from four feet away even without the rivet detail. 

  Is it really worth my time to bother with the cars? On the one hand, the 
prototypes I have in mind are not available in plastic. They might be one day, 
but then I might pass from the earth before that happens. Perhaps a collector 
out there would love the Perma-Bilt kits. If he loves them more than I do, then 
maybe we could work out a deal. Clearly, the Perma-Bilt kits are not up to 
today's standard, but they also look fairly good from four feet away. 

  I invite comments if anyone has some thoughts on the matter.

  Tom

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