A while back there was some discussion on th S scale list about modeling SFRD reefers using the AF reefer shell;
http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/photos/view/62b8?b=51 (There is also an article on this in an olde S magazine along with photo and drawing of SFRD 11461.) See these photos for cars of 13'-4" height with fish-belly center sill http://www.geocities.com/oldlahistory/sfrd4206.jpg http://www.geocities.com/oldlahistory/sfrd33055.jpg http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=90282 SFRD 11194 class Rr48 http://freight.railfan.ca/atsf/sfrd11286.jpg There are also similar cars of 14'-1" height with straight sill. http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/rsPicture.aspx?id=13199 http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/rsPicture.aspx?id=27015 http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/rsPicture.aspx?id=104897 The 11461 in the olde S scale magazine article is also a 14'-1" high car. By my measurements, the height of the AF reefer is close to the 13'-4" height. I'm told that these are rebuilt from swing door cars in the 1950's, from several classes. I have scoured all my books, magazine articles, and on-line sources and have found no mention of them. I'm told that I need to get, Volume Two, Refrigerator Cars: Ice Bunker Cars 1884-1979 . by Keith Jordan, Richard H. Hendrickson, John B. Moore and A. Dean Hale which is available at http://www.atsfrr.com/store/book3.htm Does anybody have that? I'd prefer not to buy it just to get modeling information for 1 car. Can anybody provide info or suggest other on-line, book, or magazine references? Regarding decals, I have partial information regarding what is accurate for these cars. The photos above show one side of the cars. What was on the other side??? A curved line map was used in early 1940. In 1940 - 1947 ATSF used a straight line map. For 1947-1958 the map was replaced with the "Ship and Travel Santa Fe all the way" slogan. These would be correct for cars rebuilt in the 1950's. Microscale has an S scale set with the curved line map from early 1940. http://www.microscale.com/decals/S_scale/6412.jpg My Clover House catalog lists ALL styles, with several of them available in S. Tom Lennon has Enhorning decals for the third version, see below. The first ID (SR-012) is the Enhorning number. Numbers at the end are for reference; (BRH-226 is Champ), (22-12 is Walthers) SR-012 SFRD Orange and Black Freight Reefer-"Grand Canyon" Black/White 5 BRH-226 SR-013 SFRD Orange and Black Freight Reefer-"Super Chief" Black/White 15 BRH-224 SR-014 SFRD Orange and Black Freight Reefer-"El Capitan" Black/White 24 BRH-223 SR-018 SFRD Orange and Black Freight Reefer-"The Scout" Black/White 13 BRH-219, 22-12 SR-038 SFRD Orange and Black Freight Reefer-"The Chief" Black/White 14 BRH-225, 22-48 Tom also has: SR-059 SFRD Black and Yellow Freight Reefer-8' Herald Black/White 11 HR-60, 22-43 See http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/rsPicture.aspx?id=27015 This lettering was also used on swing door cars. I believe the next one is from the 60's - 70's SR-079 SFRD Red and Black or Green Freight Reefer-Shock Control White/Yellow 5 22-35/36/36A Here is Tom's website. http://www.s-scaletrains.com/milepost169/index.html -- Ted Larson If a man is alone in a forest, is he still wrong? Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
