Folks, It was pointed out to me, off list, that my previous post could be read to imply that the new SHS Consolidation will slip on a flat when pulling about ten cars. First let me apologize for that misunderstanding. My reply to George did not state that I was pulling up a 3% grade, and it probably should have. I intended to make no statement about how many cars the engine will pull on the flat. My layout is small but crooked (reflects the ethics of the management, I suppose) and doesn't have enough flat to fit ten cars into. Rather, as George had said that his AM GP-9 has been pushing 10 to 12 cars up a 3% grade, I intended to indicate that my Pacific would do the same as the Geep -- meaning the same performance up a similar grade. I apologize if my not explicitly restating the grade has led to confusion. I was attempting to do apples to apples with respect to the grade in order to show the contrast between the pulling power of the traction tire equipped engines and those not so equpped. Real engines slip on grades, so I don't have a problem with the models doing likewise. The SHS 2-8-0 is a fine engine and a fine runner. I am delighted by it and am considering buying a second so I can double head up those nasty 3% grades. I'd also note that Andre's comments elsewhere on this list about the grade ratings for a GP7 on a 2.5% grade in prototype land suggest that the SHS 2-8-0 model's performance on a hill is both prototypical and respectable. Pardon me for taking the unusual step of seeming to reply to myself, but I wanted to be sure that I corrected any misunderstanding that might result from a bit of email sloppiness on my part. . Regards... Peter Gagnon
----- Original Message ---- From: Peter Gagnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: George <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 12:01:22 PM Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Re:Car Weighting--a variety of opinions,etc. Hey George, My AM Pacific will do that same as your geep - even more than 12 cars are no problem. My SHS F7 and my new (yeasterday arrival) 2-8-0 tend to slip at about 9 to 10 cars. Traction tires are the difference. SHS doesn't use them and AM does. Regards.... ----- Original Message ---- From: George <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .com Sent: Monday, October 9, 2006 5:30:28 PM Subject: {S-Scale List} Re:Car Weighting--a variety of opinions,etc. My American Models GP-9 has been pushing 10 to 12 PRS, SHS, AM freight cars up a 3%+ grade. It doesn't even slow noticably slow down. I've often wondered if a prototype would do as well. I understand a lot of modelers want to put a couple of locos ahead of 80+ cars and run the layout without any oversight. No doubt fun for railfanning on the layout, but it does seem model locomotives are more powerful than prototypes. I don't blame maufactors for building to the market, but it makes adding helpers on a small layout an exercise in imagination. George Courtney [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
