I learn something every day. Thanks. Chuck
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: David Engle 
  To: C & P Porter ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Tom Hawley 
  Cc: [email protected] 
  Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 8:20 PM
  Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Re: Minimum radius


  So were the Russian Decapods that ended up on the Frisco, then later went to 
Eagle-Picher; up to 5 of them are in museums today. DJE
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: C & P Porter 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Tom Hawley 
  Cc: [email protected] 
  Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 7:45 PM
  Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Re: Minimum radius

  Along w/your comment re wider driver tires, some may not know this but the 
Panama RR was originally built to 5' gauge. At least some of the engines were 
bult to standard gauge w/wider tires. Some years ago we were down to Eureka 
Springs, AR and rode the msm operation there as well as their excellent dinner 
train. They had an ex Panama RR steam locomotive there that they were running 
on their std gauge track. It really looked interesting with those wide tires. 

  Chuck Porter
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bob Werre 
  To: Tom Hawley 
  Cc: [email protected] 
  Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 9:35 AM
  Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Re: Minimum radius

  Arden, Tom and Everyone else:
  A couple of us had discussed getting some extra drivers from SHS 
  and replacing the blind ones. I then checked the side-to-side movement 
  and discovered that the engine would have trouble making most curves if 
  converted. So unless you want to do some major rebuilding on the frame, 
  I think we will be running blind drivers. Thus far, on my layout, I 
  have to relay a few inches of track with a slight kink. The SHS engine 
  will derail when backing through that area. All of my other engines 
  (most of them larger) run through this area, so I never bothered to fix 
  the track. This just proves that every steam engine will have it's own 
  issues and some will find your own shortcomings.

  There had been a SP (TN&O) 2-10-2 on display at Houston's Zoo which 
  has recently been moved to Minute Maid Park. Several years ago a group 
  got together with the idea of running it again. They started work on it 
  but never got very far because of the money issue, but we had a talk by 
  one of the workers. He said that engine would run anyplace a 2-8-2 
  could run because the side to side movement of the middle axles was 
  greater where other engines resorted to blind drivers. I also 
  understand that if a engine had blind drivers the thread width would be 
  greater so the engines drivers would not drop off the rail on a sharp curve.

  Bob Werre

  Tom Hawley wrote:

  > ----- Original Message -----
  > From: Arden Goehring
  > Are you saying that the SCALE SHS 2-8-0's all have blind drivers? 
  > Which, the
  > center two axles?
  > > > > > > > >
  > I believe I once heard Don Thompson say he could not persuade his 
  > engineer
  > to put flanges on all wheels on the scale version. Yes, it would be the
  > center two that are flangeless.
  > Tom Hawley -- Lansing Michigan
  >
  > 

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