Tim Brown (and others) --

I see that no one has risen to discuss trackage alternatives with you, so I 
will.  Track is my thing.  When I was a kid I built my own Flyer-compatible 
turnouts and laid my own rail on milled Tru-scale roadbed.  (If you know what 
this is, you are over the hill ... with me!)  Over the years I have used pretty 
much everyone's flextrack as well as hand-laying my track and turnouts (which I 
do now).  However, also in the present time frame, I am installing all the 
track on another list member's layout.  One of his requirements is that all 
track products on his layout be commercially available.  This individual also 
had built closed-frog turnouts of the sort you describe in an attempt to 
accommodate both scale and AF wheelsets.  Some of these have found their way to 
his present layout -- but will soon be replaced.  (I'll tell you why presently.)

My recommendation to you is to make a clean break with AF and hirail wheelsets 
and switch completely to scale.  That means all your wheelsets must conform to 
the NASG/NMRA wheelset standard, AND all your track must so conform.  My reason 
is simple:  Despite all the attempts over the decades to manufacture or 
scratchbuilt "universal" turnouts, no one has really succeeded except S Helper 
Service.  The reason is simple:  In scale, all manufacturers follow the 
NASG/NMRA standards for trackage.  In hirail, while there is an NMRA hirail 
track and wheelset standard for S, no one follows it.  This drove S Helper 
nuts, trying to find a guard rail spacing that would accept the large variation 
in AF wheelset dimensions over the years as well as the wheelsets on the more 
modern SHS and American Models equipment.  S Helper finally did away with guard 
rails entirely.  Instead, they implemented a movable point within the frog, 
quite separate from (but actuated simultaneously with) the switchpoints.

OK, so why am I not recommending that you switch entirely to SHS trackage 
products?  The answer is  because the trackage is all sectional, of fixed 
radius, and all mainline roadbed profile.  Some may also criticize the small 
turnouts (#3 frog), but SHS has a more prototypical #5 in the wings, tro be 
available someday.

Why do I not recommend closed-frog (movable point-frog) turnouts?  Because you 
have a really long movable chunk comprised of two rails, three brass plates 
holding these together, and a pivot point whose location must be precisely 
positioned for both the points and the frog to align properly.  And assuming 
that the turnout gets built and installed perfectly, you still have the problem 
of scale wheel flanges "picking" the gapped rail end at the frog -- in both 
directions.  And there will be no guard rails opposite the frog to prevent this 
from happening.

For scale, you have many options.  Trackage (flextrack) is made in code 100 
(the de facto S scale standard) by Shinohara (via Scenery Unlimited) and 
Tomalco.  Both forms also manufacture turnouts to match their track.  Shinohara 
makes #6 and #8 turnouts.  Tomalco makes a lot of different sizes as well as 
three-way turnouts.  Another firm, Trout Creek Engineering, makes "BK 
Turnouts."  These come without ties; they are to be laid on hand-laid ties or 
on paser-cut tie strtip available from Tomalco.  BK (Trout Creek) will, as far 
as I know, make up specialty trackage items to custom-fit your situation (like 
crossings).

At the risk of incurring the ire of some manufacturers, I will close by giving 
you my opinion of the various track manufacturers' products:

S Helper Service -- Excellent products.  The relatively large rail (about 8 
scale inches high) represents modern heavy-duty Northeast Corridor practice.  
All sectional, no flextrack.  Overall height (table-top to railhead) 
incompatible with any other manufacturer except AF/K-Line.

Shinohara -- Well made, easy to use.  All code 100 (about 6-1/2 scale inches 
high).  The #6 turnout is really closer to a #4-1/2.  The frog is a bona fide 
#6, but the turnout is too short, and thus its radius is quite tight.  The 
Shinohara #8 is right on.

Tomalco -- Excellent flextrack, more finely detailed and more accurate mainline 
tie spacing that Shinohara.  Available in code 100, 83, and 70.  Turnouts come 
glued to laser-cut wood tie strip, mostly in gauge.  Heating the rail with a 
soldering gun while you move your track gauge close behind will correct gauging 
problems.

BK -- Nicely done, properly gauged.  Must spike these down, then remove the 
"straps" (brass wires soldered across the rails to maintain gauge until the 
turnout is spiked down).

White Oak Turnouts -- I am told these are no longer made, but you might find 
some available -- maybe from Tom Hawley (who is on this e-list).  These, in my 
opinion, were the best turnouts ever made for S scale despite some cosmetic 
compromises (no spike heads, black ties).  Each tie is a strip of PC board.  
Each rail segment is soldered to every PC tie it touches.  The gauging is 
perfect.  The PC cladding is properly gapped for regular DC operation (but some 
alterations in gapping are required for DCC).  The only downside is the 
installation, and that's minor.  A cardstock shim must be placed beneath each 
turnout so as to match the table-top-to-railhead height with Tomalco, 
Shinohara, and BK turnouts.

In closing let me say that there are lot of hirail people out there who will 
tell you that hirail is easier to work with; that scale wheels and track are 
subject to derailment problems.  But if you ask the relatively few of us out 
here who actually have scale trackage, we will tell you that that's a myth.  If 
you follow the standards you will have no problems.  Buy a track/wheel gauge 
from the NASG, and make sure all your track and all your wheelsets conform to 
it.

Dick Karnes

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