Bill....I truly appreciate your philosophy, but what I really wanted 
was the rooster, not the cattle.  Gotta read Lind's message and my 
response more carefully -- no mention of cattle.  An S scale rooster, 
painted and crowing his red-tipped head off, would be a really neat 
thing for my farm scene.  Gotta have some other animals around to 
keep the dairy cows from getting lonesone.  Soooooooo......got any 
ideas on a rooster?  Maybe some chickens to keep the rooster company. 
Richard's message was not clear as to whether these animals were made 
by Ertl or someone else.  At least not clear to me.  Call me 
dense...Ed L.

--- In [email protected], "Bill Lane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
> 
> Years ago when Yahoo took over the groups from One List, I was 
learning
> about and joining groups as I found them. I joined the Steam Era 
Freight
> Cars list since I am much more of a freight car fan then passenger. 
It was
> there that I witnessed obsessing and regurgitation of minutia like 
I had
> NEVER seen before. Yes, some of the posts were helpful. Many 
members were
> VERY knowledgeable about freight cars. I got some help when I 
asked. I have
> not asked in a while though. BUT, compared to this group on a real 
bad hair
> day, they were PROS at sometimes spending DAYS grinding on 
seemingly useless
> data.
> 
> One day the subject came up about how many cattle could fit in ____ 
stock
> car. This went on for a while - no make that days! I completely 
lost it when
> they started talking about how many "fattened cattle" would fit in 
____
> stock car. I just happened to have gotten my first digital camera. 
I grabbed
> an Ertl cow, took a photo, and posted a link to the photo. I asked 
the group
> if it was a FATTENED S Scale cow or not. It was completely LOST on 
them. No
> one replied. Since I was the S Scaler freak, they ignored my goof, 
but still
> it was a viable question. Further, for modeling purposes why would 
anyone
> NEED to KNOW that!?!?!
> 
> I tried to get them to post photos of their recently completed 
models. I
> started with my just completed H30a. All I got was chirping 
crickets - no
> interest whatsoever. My H30a is still on the home page 3+ years 
later. I am
> convinced all that gets made is email. I had to turn off the email, 
which
> was abundant, because I could not take the days of answering obscure
> questions, and some rather consistent and sometimes brutal 
shredding of new
> (mostly HO) products that were only seen from 30 KB pre-release 
website
> photos. I considered it to be chest beating and a defense as to why 
to NOT
> buy something.
> 
> So Ed, what does any of this have to do with you wanting good S 
Scale
> livestock? Not much! (:->) I just say buy what you can when you see 
it. I am
> not getting into modeling S Scale livestock too! The Ertl stuff is 
more then
> good enough for me! I just put in "Ertl cattle" in eBay
> http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?
from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=ertl+c
> attle&category There are a few to choose from.
> 
> Thank You,
> Bill Lane


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