Actually, the old NMRA standard with Code 125 wheels was still closer to scale than HO.
"Playing with trains"? T.C., how DARE you! Model Railroading is serious business - and as for opinions, they are like Flyer cabooses; everybody's got one! :<) Bob Nicholson __________________________________ --- In [email protected], Talmadge C 'TC' Carr <group_l...@...> wrote: > > The unfortunate answer is NO, they are into S Gauge. > In the US among "S" modelers the word scale means "not hi-rail". It > implies better modeling by having "Scale" track. Some seem to think > if you use the old course standards, or forbid AF toy standards, then > you are not modeling to scale but just playing with toy trains. The > word has been known to cause fights and derision. Some AF aficionados > have become belligerent if they hear that you modify AF stuff with > more scale wheels and couplers. They consider that you are polluting > S "GAUGE" which must be AF pure. There is no such hatreds in O > between the Lionel folks and the 2 rail guys. But in "S" it is a real > division point with little or no interchange (puns intended). At > least none that many admit too. > Hence the change of gauge to scale while more correct could be quite > politically explosive. You should hear the complaints if an add has > the wrong couplers or an article shows the large rail. They think it > dilutes the "scale" aspect of "S" and makes us look like toy players. > Me wonders if these folks are afraid of having their hobby called PLAY. > Thankfully not all folks think this way as exemplified by some really > good Hi-Rail layouts that, unless you are told, you can not tell that > the rail is oversized. When NASG created the finer standards all the > smaller scales were still using course hirail standards. (such as > code 110 wheels on code 100 rail in H0) the larger scales were still > mostly toys on rather broad gauges. (0 gauge is 5' in O scale) The > current "scale" standards are the equivalent of "fine-scale" in H0 or > N and so are much more "to scale" than in other American modeling at > the time of their creation. BTW; The current standards are no longer > 7/8" gauge but a bit tighter. > TCC:} > > > On Dec 27, 2008, at 4:20 PM, Robert Comerford wrote: > > > I don't get why having `scale' would alienate those who run Flyer > > and similar equipment. Are they not also into S scale; just choosing > > to use a coarser wheel and track standard and basing their layouts > > primarily on unmodified commercial items because they like that > > style of model train running? > > Talmadge C 'TC' Carr > Sn42 and Hn42 somewhere in the wilds of the Pacific Northwest > group_l...@... > ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[email protected] mailto:[email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
