> Anyone Else?
> Bill Lane

Well all I can say is that I am blown away.  Not intending to start a right
vs. wrong or weathered vs. new discussion, the paint messages sure started
flowing -- or is it "spraying"?.  My original point was that some modelers
tend to worry about trivial minor things to an extreme.  What else is new?
In this case, it seems to me, right or wrong sort of depends on whether your
are modeling a railroad as one would see it out there in the real world with
dirt, soot, streaks, stains, sun-induced fading, age effects, etc. or if you
are modeling drift cards?  I wonder what percentage of the cars in a major
yard would exactly match the drift card?  Not being critical of those who
care about such things, but just kind of curious if anyone has any
statistics?  Poking fun, as usual....Ed L.  

> The labels all say "PRR freight car red", but there 
> are three different colors in the bunch. 
> Brass Basher (aka "Rusty")

> the supplier keeps changing me thinks.
> Brass Basher again

> Which makes the paint completely realistic? The PRR 
> paint would have been from various batches over the 
> years <snip>
> The railroad didn't worry about it as much as modelers do! 
> dave

> A guy who worked in the Monon car shops told me that
> they used whatever reddish brown was available, and that 
> the suppliers colors didn't match from one batch to another.
> Roger Nulton

> Arden Goehring walked down a l-o-n-g siding
> with many many UP caboosi on it. He correctly 
> noted that the color "UP Yellow" varied all over the map. 
> After that experience, he never worried about using the 
> exact correct color anymore. They were all
> correct in one way or another.
> Ed L.

> Most used standards and "drift cards" and required that 
> suppliers match the color closely.
> Pieter Roos

> weathering effects would begin to change things a lot. 
> A PRR car that ended up traveling the Southwestern U.S. 
> a lot would look very different from one that remained 
> mostly in the Northeast. Sun, soot and road dirt 
> (and sometimes the cargo) really changed the base color 
> a lot, until some red based cars almost look black! 
> Pieter Roos

> Pieter is correct. There are color drift cards.
> Bill Lane

> If you want a "spirited" discussion at a PRR convention 
> mention what is the correct color!
> Bill Lane

> I also agree that there are SOME variances in colors. 
> I suspect that the color differences <snip> are because of 
> the original color variance that was made more noticeable 
> with the weathering and fading.
> Bill Lane

> It is generally agreed that this color changed somewhat 
> throughout the years, <snip> There was a dramatic noticeable 
> shift with the start of the Shadow Keystone paint schemes.
> Bill Lane

> The oxide red from Scalecoat changed a while back.
> Bill Lane

> Anyone Else?
> Bill Lane


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