Thanks Bill, that was before I joined the list but explains a lot.

Oh well, a guy can wish I guess.

Carey

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On 7/28/2010 8:32 AM, Bill & Diane, B.T.S. wrote:
>
> Carey Probst wrote:
>
> > This discussion brings up a topic I have been thinking about for quite
> >a while as to why there are not more laser cut structures made for the
> >smaller (numbers wise) scales like S and it may be my lack of
> >understanding of how the laser cutting process works.
> >
> >Once the manufacturer has entered all the cutting information into the
> >computer for creating an HO scale structure I would think it would be a
> >minor cost to simply scale all the dimensions up to S or O or down to TT
> >or Z and make a small run.
> >
> >I do not know how the basic design translates from the CAD to the laser
> >cutter but on a normal drafting program when you design in feet or
> >meters you can print in any scale as a full size drawing. How is laser
> >cutting different and why can't an HO laser cutting plan be easily
> >changed to cut an S scale structure?
> >
> >
> >
> (snip)
>
> That has been discussed in the past.... my Feb 2009 post included below
> to why we did not run our Civil War cars in S scale....
>
> Urban legend!! Not even close to reality! While I can cut any
> drawing on the lasers in any scale just by changing two parameters when
> the job is submitted to the laser, the kits would never go together. I
> have just spent over 100 man-hours over the last few months just
> converting the Slatyfork Sawmill from HO to S Scale. Here is the
> reality....
>
> Every part must be evaluated to make a decision on what thickness of
> material should be used. There are no equal thickness of materials
> between scales. For example, a wall in HO cut on 1/16" stock makes a
> scale 5.44" thick wall. That same 1/16" stock might work for S, but
> then it is only a scale 4" thick, or it can be cut on 3/32" stock that
> is six scale inches thick if it looks better that way. Either material
> size means the walls are now a different thickness from the original
> design specs, and therefore, EVERY piece that touches that internal
> dimension has to be changed... the floor that fits inside the four 1/16"
> thick walls now needs to be 1.44 scale inches larger in all directions,
> the tabs and slots on the walls need to be modified to compensate for
> the thickness change, the rafters that fit inside the walls need to
> change, etc., etc. Then every piece needs to be tested... i.e., cut
> and glued together to make sure it all fits together.
>
> Next the kerf of the laser beam comes into play for critical tolerance
> parts such as window sashes fitting into the holes in the walls. The
> beam thickness is 0.006" or about 1/2" in HO scale or about 1/3" in S
> scale. So the sashes need mods as the scale changes or they will not
> fit in the holes. Yes, it helps to keep a calculator on the desk!
>
> All the above is part of the engineering we go through with conversion
> of a kit to another scale. In addition, sometimes the artistic stuff
> comes into play.... a part that looks good as a scale 2" piece in HO,
> may need to be a scale 3" piece in S to 'look right.'
>
> Now that every part has been modified, the layout on the wood has to
> change. While a group of HO pieces could be cut on 4" x 24" basswood,
> the same parts in S scale will now need two pieces of 6" x 24" stock.
>
> Then we look at detail castings. While we have a lot on hand already,
> doing the Civil War cars will require new patterns for at least the
> brake wheel, bolster washers, and stake pockets. Truck and L&P couplers
> patterns would be nice also. Artwork for decals will be needed since
> no one else does them.
>
> Then the instructions need to be gone through line by line to make sure
> everything is correct. Wire sizes change as you go from one scale to
> another, as do real dimensions mentioned in the instructions.
>
> How I wish it was as simple as most folks believe. Changing scales
> is a lot of work with little reward in S Scale.
>
> Take care
> Bill
>
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