The PRR GLc was basically a Pressed Steel Car Company design with the fish 
belly side sill which was common to their early 20th century cars. PSC built 
hoppers with varying details for other railroads (and also boxcars and reefers 
with the same side sill design). I suspect the actual rib design on the GLc may 
have been unique to PRR.

I'm sure there were many cars similar to other PRR hopper designs built for 
other railroads. A few coal companies closely tied to PRR had common design 
cars, Berwind and Westmoreland Coal come to mind. 

In HO, the Bowser GLa model is a good starting point for many early hoppers. In 
S, the AM hopper is a bit big for most early cars, although I did make an early 
CNJ car from one. Moving the trucks and bolsters toward the end of the car (and 
extending the end sill) also served to lower the car by 6 inches or so which 
helped in the "early" look. I think there is a photo of the car in an album in 
the Photos section from a few years ago.

Pieter E. Roos


--- On Tue, 11/9/10, JGG KahnSr <[email protected]> wrote:

> From: JGG KahnSr <[email protected]>
> Subject: RE: {S-Scale List} Re: PRR GLa in S
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Tuesday, November 9, 2010, 12:34 PM
> 
> But hoppers built for other roads would not be Gl's or
> Gla's (purely a PRR class  designation, the AAR used
> "H" for hopper classes, plus whatever specific one each
> railroad might use).
> 
> My point was not the really odd or even unique kinds of
> freight cars (say four-truck heavy duty or depressed center
> flatcars, or even more unusual ones) but a handful of
> railroad-specific types that were produced in such numbers
> as to be ubiquitous and interchanged all over North
> America.  There was a very good chance of finding a
> wagontop or ribside in any consist of boxcars, even on a
> shortline (which I model) with six or eight cars in a
> train.  I have many photo records of that.  Or one
> of my favorites, from one of Ed Lewis's Short Line guides,
> of a Prattsburgh six-wheel Plymouth with a three-car train,
> one of which is a GLca.
> 
> Jace Kahn
> 
> General Manager 
> Ceres & Canisteo RR Co./Champlain County Traction Co.
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > --- In [email protected],
> JGG KahnSr <jacek...@...> wrote:
> > > Off the top of my head without digging into
> references, I think the real difference (and visible if a
> USRA and a GLa are put next to each
> > > other) is that the GLa is about a foot shorter in
> height.
> > 
> > 8 inches shorter, for the original Gla versus the
> standard USRA twin. However, Gla-type cars were built in a
> number of different heights for roads other than PRR.
> > 
> > > My long-standing thesis is that there are at
> least a half-dozen distinctive prototype freight cars which
> were routinely interchanged during the steam/early diesel
> era so many of us favor,
> > 
> > Yes, but this runs the risk of becoming a parade of
> wackiness, while a train of mostly boring, nondistinct cars
> with the occasional oddball is more true to life.
> > 
> > > And closing the circle on this, I'd agree that
> serious PRR modelers would want at least a few GLa's, but
> I'm not so sure the rest of us feel the same sense of
> urgency.
> > 
> > Serious PRR modelers need about 50 Gla's, but most of
> the rest of us can get by with one or three.
> > 
> > David Thompson
> > 
> > 
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