Promoting S Scale Model TrainsI noted the recent discussion re S Mags & have to
say, the latest edition of 1/64 Modeling guide is excellent with something for
everyone. In fact, There's one on adding loads, prototypically, to a variety of
S flat cars, that AF, HiRail, & scale can use. The article also contains a
wealth of modeling & detailing tips. I learned several things from Dick Karnes'
article on preventing derailments, there's a nice ng feature, & a report on the
most recent NASG convention. Altogether, a very well done publication.
Chuck Porter
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1.1. Re: S Magazines From: scale S only
1.2. Re: S Magazines From: Richard Karnes
1.3. Re: S Magazines From: Monte
1.4. Re: S Magazines From: Bert Cutler
1.5. Re: S Magazines From: grant bishop
1.6. Re: S Magazines From: Peter Vanvliet
1.7. Re: S Magazines From: riffer73
1.8. Re: S Magazines From: Talmadge C 'TC' Carr
2a. Re: Train Find From: JGG KahnSr
2b. Re: Train Find From: John
3a. S Philosophy (was: Re: S Magazines) From: Richard Karnes
3b. S Philosophy (was: Re: S Magazines) From: danvandermause
3c. Re: S Philosophy (was: Re: S Magazines) From: Bob Werre
4a. Re: roof windows From: Gale Hall
4b. Re: roof windows From: Bert Cutler
5. Re: Truly last call for Reading/CNJ and other coach roofs From: Earl
Tuson
6a. Re: (was S Philosophy) now is NEED for flex-track-compatible Motoriz
From: [email protected]
6b. Re: (was S Philosophy) now is NEED for flex-track-compatible Motoriz
From: ctxmf74
7.1. Re: Frogs -- straight or curved..... From: canadiannorthernhistorian
8. New S Product From: Edward Loizeaux
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1.1. Re: S Magazines
Posted by: "scale S only" [email protected] scalesonly
Fri Feb 11, 2011 10:46 am (PST)
Hi Bob --
An interesting observation. It has been said before that the narrow gauge
group is not as much scale related as they are narrow gauge related, so
Don’s
separation of the two is probably a smart move on his part.
Kalmbach wholesales the Heimburger publications, which cuts both ways – he
has to print enough to meet their demands and accept the losses incurred by
not selling all that Kalmbach distributes, but he probably has a larger
audience as a result. Our other S magazines would probably fall into a
non-compete situation where Kalmbach won’t handle them, even if the
publisher wanted them to do so, but it would sure be nice to have them put
more before the public’s vision.
Have fun!
Bill Winans
Prescott Valley, AZ
I find it interesting that Mr. Heimberger has divided his little
magazine empire by putting NG in one pub and Standard Gauge in the
other, ... Unfortunately none of these magazines except the
S Gaugian and the Sn3 modeler can generally be seen in the hobby shops.
Bob Werre
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1.2. Re: S Magazines
Posted by: "Richard Karnes" [email protected] rnk2202
Fri Feb 11, 2011 11:11 am (PST)
Bill Rigsby --
You make good points -- sort of.
Regarding the kinds of things you want in an S magazine -- How would you
know if
you don't buy the magazine? You would find some of what you seek if you
read my
regular column, for example. Regarding your fencepost idea, why would you
not
take the next step and draft your own article for Bob? It is obvious from
your
e-notes on this Yahoo e-list that you write well/clearly.
Lastly, why do you hold the present owner hostage because of the former
editor?
Dick Karnes
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1.3. Re: S Magazines
Posted by: "Monte" [email protected] monte_heppe
Fri Feb 11, 2011 11:34 am (PST)
I'm mostly a Flyer and HiRail guy, although I have been dabbling in scale
lately. I subscribe to 1/64 Modeling Guide and find it quite enjoyable. I am an
information junkie when it comes to railroading. I subscribe to Trains, Model
Railroader, Classic Toy trains, S Gaugian, O Gauge Railroading, the
Dispatch,SSMRS Gazzette and I've never felt that scale articles were money down
the drain. I find useful information in most articles. I also belong to NASG,
TCA, TTOS, several railroad historical sociities and the S Scale Model Railroad
Society. If you want to check out some amazing S scale scratch building, check
out that last group.
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1.4. Re: S Magazines
Posted by: "Bert Cutler" [email protected] bertcutler
Fri Feb 11, 2011 12:03 pm (PST)
Roy, Model Railroader Is a definite scale magazine not a toy train mag. S
Guagian is 60 to 70 percent toys and maybe the balance scale. Most of it's
advertising is toys. And now with maybe the loss of 2 of our big Manufacturers
s Scale people had best smarten up ,and start promoting S scale . The age
factor is catching up, The economy, and a lot of other factors. Please don't
compare MR with S Guagian ,Just isn't so. Thank you Bert Cutler
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Subject: {S-Scale List} Re: S Magazines
The S Gaugian is arguably the Model Railroader of S scale. It tries to
cover all aspects of S except for Sn3 because HH has another pub for that. I
submit articles to the SG because it's nice to reach the sizable readership
that they enjoy relative to the other S pubs. I admit that it's an ego thing..
I've been on 4 of their covers over the years and it's been extremely
satisfying to see them. They do sit on "scale" oriented articles for a while
because most of their readers are of the highrail/AF persuasion. I've also been
on the cover of the 1:64 magazine and have submitted an article to them. To me
S is S. AF, highrail, scale or Sn3: I love 'em all.
Roy
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1.5. Re: S Magazines
Posted by: "grant bishop" [email protected] throwuponme2000
Fri Feb 11, 2011 12:12 pm (PST)
1 reason I don't read 1/64 modeler is I have never seen it anywhere! No
Hobby store or magazine shop has ever had it on their shelves.
I want to read one before I subscribe to it!
You'd think there would be copies at a train show but
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
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1.6. Re: S Magazines
Posted by: "Peter Vanvliet" [email protected] pandcrr
Fri Feb 11, 2011 3:13 pm (PST)
I agree with Tom. I have really gotten to like the O Scale Trains
magazine (no, I'm not changing scales). I am also considering
subscribing to that one because of the content being adaptable to S.
What got me hooked was that they publish the out-of-print older issues
on their site for free:
http://www.oscalemag.com/docs/dwnld.html
As a matter of fact, the telephone/telegraph poles I build late last
year were a direct copy of one of the articles in one of those back issues.
- Peter.
On 02/11/2011 7:25 am, Thomas Baker wrote:
>
>
> I hope the magazine succeeds this time round. Just from observing matters
in O scale, I believe that the model for taking a magazine from nowhere to be a
popular seller is "O Scale Trains". The journal is well done with no cutsey
little ads or layouts. Whenever I get to Barnes& Noble or someplace that
carries the magazine, I thumb through it because it does sometimes have an
article relevant for S.
>
> Tom
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1.7. Re: S Magazines
Posted by: "riffer73" [email protected] riffer73
Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:56 pm (PST)
I agree. All kinds of good stuff in that magazine and the back issues.
--- In [email protected], Peter Vanvliet <pavanvliet@...> wrote:
>
> I agree with Tom. I have really gotten to like the O Scale Trains
> magazine (no, I'm not changing scales). I am also considering
> subscribing to that one because of the content being adaptable to S.
> What got me hooked was that they publish the out-of-print older issues
> on their site for free:
>
> http://www.oscalemag.com/docs/dwnld.html
>
> As a matter of fact, the telephone/telegraph poles I build late last
> year were a direct copy of one of the articles in one of those back
issues.
>
> - Peter.
>
> On 02/11/2011 7:25 am, Thomas Baker wrote:
> >
> >
> > I hope the magazine succeeds this time round. Just from observing
matters in O scale, I believe that the model for taking a magazine from nowhere
to be a popular seller is "O Scale Trains". The journal is well done with no
cutsey little ads or layouts. Whenever I get to Barnes& Noble or someplace that
carries the magazine, I thumb through it because it does sometimes have an
article relevant for S.
> >
> > Tom
>
> --
> Peter Vanvliet (pavanvliet@..., or peter@...)
> Houston, Texas
>
> "It is easy to give up; anyone can do that..."
>
> http://pmrr.org/ (my model railroad - RSS feed <http://pmrr.org/rss.xml>)
> http://fourthray.com/ (my company)
> http://houstonsgaugers.org/ (model railroad club)
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>
>
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1.8. Re: S Magazines
Posted by: "Talmadge C 'TC' Carr" [email protected] dapenguin503
Fri Feb 11, 2011 8:18 pm (PST)
How bout Carstens??
On Feb 11, 2011, at 12:46 PM, scale S only wrote:
> Our other S magazines would probably fall into a non-compete
> situation where Kalmbach won�t handle them, even if the publisher
> wanted them to do so, but it would sure be nice to have them put
> more before the public�s vision.
Talmadge C 'TC' Carr
Sn42 and Hn42 somewhere in the wilds of the Pacific Northwest
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2a. Re: Train Find
Posted by: "JGG KahnSr" [email protected] jggksr
Fri Feb 11, 2011 11:33 am (PST)
How do terrapins and beavers co-exist?
Jace Kahn
General Manager
Ceres & Canisteo RR Co./Champlain County Traction Co.
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> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 21:49:55 -0500
> Subject: {S-Scale List} Train Find
>
> Who needs a train show to find a mint in box item, when you can find them
in your own basement, really.
>
> That happen today.
>
> I was going through some things in the basement, non train things and I
found this mint in box American Models box car kit, number 132, Canadian
Pacific with a price tag of 20 on it.
>
> I remember where I go this, as we got this in Wells Maine at Doug Peck
stall at a antique store in 1992! I did not have a layout at the time, but we
got it because we like beavers and the beaver logo is on the car for the CP.
>
> So, I will have to make this kit now. that car has been in my basement
for 19 years untouched!
>
> On another note, today I ordered paint from Weaver�s to paint my last
unfinished SHS box car, as this will be my Lunardi Food Service car with Frosty
Acres on it. Lunardi was my first food sales job to restaurants as they sold
out in 1988 to another company in Baltimore. Frosty Acres is a private label
for food service product, as the logo looks like a red flag. Dave at LBR made
me the decals for this car.
>
> http://www.frostyacres.com/ The Frosty Acres red logo can be seen at the
top of the website. The car will not have the other part with it.
>
> Mike Marmer
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2b. Re: Train Find
Posted by: "John" [email protected] aikaioi
Fri Feb 11, 2011 1:23 pm (PST)
Beavers take down the whole tree. Terrapins only use the very small tips of
the branches.
John Armstrong
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Subject: RE: {S-Scale List} Train Find
How do terrapins and beavers co-exist?
Jace Kahn
General Manager
Ceres & Canisteo RR Co./Champlain County Traction Co.
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> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]
> From: [email protected]
> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 21:49:55 -0500
> Subject: {S-Scale List} Train Find
>
> Who needs a train show to find a mint in box item, when you can find them
> in your own basement, really.
>
> That happen today.
>
> I was going through some things in the basement, non train things and I
> found this mint in box American Models box car kit, number 132, Canadian
> Pacific with a price tag of 20 on it.
>
> I remember where I go this, as we got this in Wells Maine at Doug Peck
> stall at a antique store in 1992! I did not have a layout at the time,
but
> we got it because we like beavers and the beaver logo is on the car for
> the CP.
>
> So, I will have to make this kit now. that car has been in my basement
for
> 19 years untouched!
>
> On another note, today I ordered paint from Weaver's to paint my last
> unfinished SHS box car, as this will be my Lunardi Food Service car with
> Frosty Acres on it. Lunardi was my first food sales job to restaurants as
> they sold out in 1988 to another company in Baltimore. Frosty Acres is a
> private label for food service product, as the logo looks like a red
flag.
> Dave at LBR made me the decals for this car.
>
> http://www.frostyacres.com/ The Frosty Acres red logo can be seen at the
> top of the website. The car will not have the other part with it.
>
> Mike Marmer
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3a. S Philosophy (was: Re: S Magazines)
Posted by: "Richard Karnes" [email protected] rnk2202
Fri Feb 11, 2011 11:36 am (PST)
All --
Roy Hoffman's extolling S Gaugian as the proper representative of all that
is S
is the primary reason that I volunteered to take over as his S Curves
column
successor in Model Railroad News. You see, I thoroughly disagree with him.
I
believe his scatter-shot philosophy is a severe impediment to S promotion.
The Gaugian and the Dispatch do a fine job of catering to the fans of just
running colorful trains. But they do nothing for promoting S to non-S
people.
They preach only to the choir. As AF fans gradually go to the Great
Trainyard
in the Sky, where are their replacements going to come from? AF means
nothing
to the potential convert from some other scale.
My whole point is that potential converts need to feel comfortable that
anything
they would purchase in S will be compatible with anything else they buy.
One of
my goals in my MRN column is to promote NMRA/NASG standards for wheels and
track
so as to ensure interoperabiity. Only those who specifically wish to run
their
cherished AF equipment need to compromise these standards -- there is no
other
rationale for going the non-standard route.
Granted, there are some missing items, notably flex-track-compatible
motorized
turnouts. At the direction of the NASG Board of Trustees some years ago, I
put
toether a draft Request for Proposal for just such a product, to be
stimulated
with NASG seed funds, but President Sam McCoy chose not to go forward with
this. To me, the unvailability of such a product hanging on a hobby shop
sales
rack, so to speak, is the single most glaring need in S.
Dick Karnes
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3b. S Philosophy (was: Re: S Magazines)
Posted by: "danvandermause" [email protected] danvandermause
Fri Feb 11, 2011 12:23 pm (PST)
Again, I think Dick hits the nail on the head.
The S-scale community as a whole has done a poor job of looking out for
their own interests. This is not about being dismissive of someone else's hobby
-- I applaud the AF fans for all the fun they are apparently having persuing
their hobby of choice. But, what does that have to do with those of us who are
having fun building scale models and building layouts that are designed for
realistic operation?
And, this is not even about rail size or coupler choice. Certainly, Brooks
Stover's hi-rail layout is one of the best-known and most fantastic S model
railroads in existence today -- but, Brooks IS a scale model railroader.
I appreciate that the ranks of the AF/hi-rail community have made many
products economically feasible, particularly S-Helper and American Models
products. But, for the few that take these hi-rail products and use them to
construct scale model railroads, the commonality between our two hobbies ends
there.
But we in the scale community have accepted this mixing of the two hobbies
in our publications, often with negative results. As Dick points out, if you
show a prospective convert a copy of the S-Gaugian or even the Dispatch, the AF
coverage is a turn-off, reinforcing the impression that S-gauge is not a
serious size for scale modeling.
I do not question the economic need for NASG and the S-Gaugian to try to
cater to the widest possible audience. But I for one am a little weary of
receiving the latest issue in the mail, and quickly devouring the scale
content. I don't know about you, but I never read the pages of listing about
which AF club is setting up their layouts at which Mall, etc. Nor do I care
about an AF caboose that was cast in green plastic, but was painted yellow. Nor
do I need to know how to repair a 1950's toy train. Again, these are all
wonderful items for those that find enjoyment in that hobby -- but this is NOT
my hobby.
S-scale modelers would be better off if we concentrated our dollars and
articles in a vehicle that could adequately convey the real excitement of scale
modeling in S. We are unlikely to gain many scale converts via an S-Gaugian
type magazine on the newsstand, simply because most serious scale modelers in N
or HO, who might be seriously considering a switch to a larger scale as they
age, will logically conclude that O-scale, or Bachman On2 has more potential
than S as a serious size to model in.
So, I am NOT bashing AF/Hi-Rail hobbyists. All I am saying is that the
S-scale community, most of which participate in this Yahoo list, may want to
rethink how best we can promote and enjoy OUR hobby -- scale model railroading
to 1:64.
Dan Vandermause
Ellicott City, MD
--- In [email protected], Richard Karnes <rnk2202@...> wrote:
>
> All --
>
> Roy Hoffman's extolling S Gaugian as the proper representative of all
that is S
> is the primary reason that I volunteered to take over as his S Curves
column
> successor in Model Railroad News. You see, I thoroughly disagree with
him. I
> believe his scatter-shot philosophy is a severe impediment to S promotion.
>
> The Gaugian and the Dispatch do a fine job of catering to the fans of
just
> running colorful trains. But they do nothing for promoting S to non-S
people.
> They preach only to the choir. As AF fans gradually go to the Great
Trainyard
> in the Sky, where are their replacements going to come from? AF means
nothing
> to the potential convert from some other scale.
>
> My whole point is that potential converts need to feel comfortable that
anything
> they would purchase in S will be compatible with anything else they buy.
One of
> my goals in my MRN column is to promote NMRA/NASG standards for wheels
and track
> so as to ensure interoperabiity. Only those who specifically wish to run
their
> cherished AF equipment need to compromise these standards -- there is no
other
> rationale for going the non-standard route.
>
> Granted, there are some missing items, notably flex-track-compatible
motorized
> turnouts. At the direction of the NASG Board of Trustees some years ago,
I put
> toether a draft Request for Proposal for just such a product, to be
stimulated
> with NASG seed funds, but President Sam McCoy chose not to go forward
with
> this. To me, the unvailability of such a product hanging on a hobby shop
sales
> rack, so to speak, is the single most glaring need in S.
>
> Dick Karnes
>
>
>
>
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3c. Re: S Philosophy (was: Re: S Magazines)
Posted by: "Bob Werre" [email protected] gpnrr
Fri Feb 11, 2011 12:45 pm (PST)
I tend to aqree with Dick on this but from a different angle. Besides
what is commonly called editorial (columns, reviews and features) are
the ads that often attracts the eye to a magazine after they've seen the
front cover.
Back about 12 years ago, my good friend, Billy Click paid me a
complement saying the best thing about the S Gaugian were the back cover
ads that I shot for Southwind Models. There is nothing worse than when
the content of a magazine looks like a computer that has frozen with the
same ads running month after month. i.e. AM's in the Dispatch, rubber
roadbed ads in the Gaugian. I remember some AF seller wanting an engine
with the brass button on the frame month after month--since I haven't
seen his ad recently, I guess he found one!
Bob Werre
BobWphoto.com
On 2/11/11 1:36 PM, Richard Karnes wrote:
>
> All --
>
> Roy Hoffman's extolling S Gaugian as the proper representative of all
> that is S
> is the primary reason that I volunteered to take over as his S Curves
> column
> successor in Model Railroad News. You see, I thoroughly disagree with
> him. I
> believe his scatter-shot philosophy is a severe impediment to S promotion.
>
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4a. Re: roof windows
Posted by: "Gale Hall" [email protected] frisco_333
Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:11 pm (PST)
You could build skylights or make dormers for the roof
gale
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Subject: {S-Scale List} roof windows
I'm building a lumber storage shed for my saw mill from various pieces of
wood. I decided to make the sides windowless because lumber would be
stacked
inside but I want to put in some roof windows. I've seen this at a busy
lumber store. Any suggestions or products that folks would recommend?
cheers
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4b. Re: roof windows
Posted by: "Bert Cutler" [email protected] bertcutler
Fri Feb 11, 2011 3:06 pm (PST)
GENTLEMAN.yOU CAN USE ROUNDHOUSE WINDOWS single or double and build boxes
around them and call them skylights. thanks
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You could build skylights or make dormers for the roof
gale
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Subject: {S-Scale List} roof windows
I'm building a lumber storage shed for my saw mill from various pieces of
wood. I decided to make the sides windowless because lumber would be
stacked
inside but I want to put in some roof windows. I've seen this at a busy
lumber store. Any suggestions or products that folks would recommend?
cheers
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5. Re: Truly last call for Reading/CNJ and other coach roofs
Posted by: "Earl Tuson" [email protected] etuson
Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:24 pm (PST)
Bill and others,
> Being one who models roads on the other side of the island, and am not
familar with these roofs. Where they used on
any other roads than the ones listed?
On Jan 10, I posted the following message to help folks identify other
prototypes:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/message/72512
Hope this helps,
Earl Tuson
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6a. Re: (was S Philosophy) now is NEED for flex-track-compatible Motoriz
Posted by: "[email protected]" [email protected] tennsgauger
Fri Feb 11, 2011 7:57 pm (PST)
I agree completely with Dick on the need for flex-track-compatible
motorizaed turnouts. The lack of this is bound to turn away a number of
converts.
I sure wish the NASG had moved on this. What a bummer!
Maybe this can happen in 2011! Dick, why not resubmit your Request for
Proposal!
- Earl Henry, Nashville
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there are some missing items, notably flex-track-compatible motorized
turnouts. At the direction of the NASG Board of Trustees some years ago, I
put
toether a draft Request for Proposal for just such a product, to be
stimulated
with NASG seed funds, but President Sam McCoy chose not to go forward with
this. To me, the unvailability of such a product hanging on a hobby shop
sales
rack, so to speak, is the single most glaring need in S.
Dick Karnes
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6b. Re: (was S Philosophy) now is NEED for flex-track-compatible Motoriz
Posted by: "ctxmf74" [email protected] ctxmf74
Fri Feb 11, 2011 10:15 pm (PST)
--- In [email protected], tennsgauge@... wrote:
>
> I agree completely with Dick on the need for flex-track-compatible
> motorized turnouts. The lack of this is bound to turn away a number of
converts.
Well, HO and N gaugers would certainly want flextrack compatible turnouts
if they were thinking of switching to S but they wouldn't want them motorized.
All scale modelers are used to installing their own switch throw mechanism ,
either a tortoise style motor or a bluepoint hand throw or a caboose ground
throw typically. Motorized turnouts are more from the three rail O or Kato
unitrack realm. A line of flextrack compatable code 100 DCC ready scale
turnouts in #5 and #7 frog angles similiar to the Atlas or Microengineering HO
product would be a nice place to start....dave
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7.1. Re: Frogs -- straight or curved.....
Posted by: "canadiannorthernhistorian" [email protected]
canadiannorthernhistorian
Fri Feb 11, 2011 8:46 pm (PST)
--- In [email protected], "Michael" <meldridge@...> wrote:
>
> Assuming that (1) this thread has something to do with building model
railroads
Constructing/buying turnouts that don't cause derailments just might have
something to do with building model railroads
and (2) math is not your second hobby:
>
> Why bother? There are templates all over the place that are free, for
example at
http://www.handlaidtrack.com/Fast-Tracks-S-Scale-Printable-Track-Templates-s/87.htm
>
> You will notice that on the template it lists the substitution radius,
along with other important planning information.
You are right. You don't have to have a PHD in math. If you think math is
fun, you can do it yourself. If you don't, others have done the math for you if
you know what to look for.
>
> -Michael Eldridge
> -I do think math is fun (geek to the core)
>
> --- In [email protected], "pickycat95" <pickycat95@> wrote:
> > OK. Most of that math is over my head unless I decide to stop and think
about it.... So, how does one figure the radius of the points? That can't be
arbitrary.
>
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8. New S Product
Posted by: "Edward Loizeaux" [email protected] ed_loizeaux
Sat Feb 12, 2011 1:40 am (PST)
Gents.
A new S scale product is now available. "Whazat?", you ask. No mention of
advance deposits or the usual blow-by-blow of test shots, pilot models, and
so forth. Is this a stealth product or what? Hints: It is made of brass.
It will make your layout look nicer. Most layouts will only need a few up
front for the rivet counters to salivate over. Being brass, it will not
rust. It is a track detail item. Karnes wanted powered turnouts. Here is
a simulated powered turnout motor. It is as close as we are going to get at
the moment (except for an existing BTS product).
The product is a set of nicely detailed brass castings for the US&S A-5
Electropneumatic switch machine and CP valve. It comes in both left hand
and right hand versions. John tells me this machine was used from the 1930s
right through the end of the so-called transition era. The instructions
read: "The air cylinder points to the frog. A pipe from each end of the
cylinder goes into the base of the valve. The electrical connection goes
into the end of the valve base. 4 ties support the A-5. The sprue gauges
the A-5 to the proper position." One photo of the prototype is included.
Ask for the TP-508 S scale (specify RH or LH).
The maker is: http://www.irishtracklayer.com/
Irish Tracklayer
2682 W. Palo Alto Avenue
Fresno, CA 93711-1107
[email protected]
Contact John Houlihan directly for photos, price, information and a photo.
I do not want a lot of curious emails about this. I have a few and they are
quite nice. Not cheap, but nice. I have a few that I will sell at a 33%
discount plus postage. First come first serve. Don't mob the door. Only
have 6 RH and 6 LH at this time. OFF LIST orders only.
"S"incerely..Ed L.
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