The picture as I see it is, If there is to be no American Flyer, where would S 
Scale be and how many people would model from scratch ? If you do just scale be 
glad that LTI is promoting S.


Frank R. EMIRO
 

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 From: Andre Ming <[email protected]>
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2012 1:38 AM
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} The State of S Scale
  

 
   
 
 
Thank God.   
  
Finally Michael Ostertag has 
spoken.
Now we can all rest easy tonight. 

Andre Ming 
----- Original Message -----  
>From: Michael  
>To: [email protected]  
>Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 3:55 
PM 
>Subject: {S-Scale List} The State of S  Scale 
>
>I've been reading a lot of the posts on here the past several  days about 
>where we are and where we came from etc.  I can't believe how  narrow minded 
>the majority of the guys in here are.  Not narrow gauge  minded either.  This 
>is 2012 NOT 1962, 72, etc...!  This argument  that "good enough should be good 
>enough" is crap!  This scale needs to  begin to attract NEW modelers to it.  
>If you want S Scale to continue to  be the good ole boys club that it's been 
>for the past 50 years than it will  die!  The AF guys need to begin to 
>understand that the future of any  scale is in scale modeling.  If it weren't 
>for guys like Jim King we  wouldn't have any new stuff coming out right now.  
>AM and SHS need update  their catalogs and start coming out with new models 
>that reflect what is  wanted in the hobby NOW!  Not from 40 years ago, or 20 
>years ago, but  NOW!  
>
>I'm soon to be 42 years old and I am on the bottom of the 
  age scale in S scale.  I am a SCALE MODELER NOT A TOY TRAIN 
  COLLECTOR!  If I am going to pay $80, 90 more for a car, then it better 
  damn well be accurate right down to the last bolt.  If I am going to pay 
  $300 or more for an engine, it better not have a swinging pilot that I can 
  "modify" to make it not do that, it better be exactly the way the prototype 
  is.  "Good enough" isn't good enough anymore.  This argument about 
  remembering where we came from, is crap too.  Technology and other modern 
  advances, like laser cutting, have made it a lot easier to produce models in 
  scale and be more precise.  You didn't have that stuff back then.  
  Back then you had to create and build what you wanted.  However, with 
  that said, because of the pigion hole that S scale is in with manufacturers 
  it's still that way to a degree.  Maybe not the the degree that it was 20 
  years ago or more, but it's still there.  The scale is viewed as a 
  TOY!  That's evedent by Lionel's offerings in S.  They all look like 
  toys, not scale models.  Enough with the 6 axle crap too.  SD60's 
  and U33C's are not going to attract anyone to the hobby.  GP38-2's, 
  GP40's, Switch engines etc. are what is needed.  Things that people can 
  see every day right now.  The SD70ACe is a joke.  If you're going to 
  build something, do it right!
>
>I have said it in the past.  If this 
  scale is to advance, it needs to do so in SCALE NOT AF.  Thanks Mr. 
  Gilbert for making what you did, but I guess we should all still be driving 
  model A's or living in log homes with no running water.  The time do 
  advance the scale is now!  So come out from under whatever rock you AF 
  guys are under and see the bigger picture here.
>
>Michael 
  Ostertag
>Green Bay, 
  WI
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