This is interesting, actually having a design 'guy' relating things. As a sometimes frustrated 're-arranger of loco innards', I would be curious as to what would cause the motors to burn up. It does look promising that Lionel is making a better effort than in the past.

This makes me want to bring down my old AF PA from a display shelf. Only the shell and two recycled trucks are original AF. The drive we designed wasn't that unique but worked very well. The shell was a 5 digit ATSF that I modified and painted it Union Pacific. We used solid chunks of Plexiglas on the shell, some solid chunks of brass and a 0 scale sized motor to power that dude. I'm not certain what the wheel gauge was set to but it ran on my layout in the late 80's until the AM's versions arrived. That's the last time an AF engine has run on my layout.

Bob Werre
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On 3/8/12 4:47 PM, richgajnak wrote:

We have been discussing this on OGR S Scale board over the past week and I believe this information should be shared, if only to eliminate surprises and new information is better than no information.

The SD70ACe's will have twin vertical motor drive and not the drive developed for the U33C.

Now, before we go off on all sorts of tangents again, Lionel's Chief Technology Officer offered his explanation today:

"We debated the drive system for some time internally, and simply could not get the features into the loco with a motor in a horizontal position. As a point of reference, the U33 was way late and the delays were due to the drive system. The electronics and motors would not work without burning up. I designed a completely new motor drive circuit for the U33, and by luck (and some long days) we made the U33 shipment last year. It almost was placed on indefinite hold due to the motor burning up problem that seemed to be unsolvable.


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