Jim,

When the Houston S Gaugers started our modules, which are still our basic oval, 25 years ago they were designed by Jack Troxell. Jack worked as an engineer designing all kind of equipment for the oil industry--meaning very heavy duty stuff. Where #8 screws were common he demanded we use #10's--you get the idea. I've commented that those modules could hold an elephant (if your Republican) or a small herd of donkeys (assuming your a Democrat) without buckling.

The problem is that we were all 25 years younger, so the weight has caught up with us. Lighter modules and ways of carrying all of them have been a priority for us. The typical train-shows always brings up clubs who have found new and different ways to deal with this situation. I've always been surprised at some of the elaborate and costly trailers, racks and support facilities some of these clubs can roster.

If you want to put the lightweight modules on tables, I might be concerned about them sliding around on the slick top surface. Maybe some kind of anchoring pegs might help there. We mix our heavy older units with the lighter ones and because we normally have a oval of some kind everything sticks together. I could see where a long branch line would be an easy candidate for some human earthquakes. In my business, we use sandbags to stabilize things--more heavy stuff to carry!

When it comes to puncture problems, if you could find (or maybe they still make it) the older version of this material, you'd find it much stronger shell. In fact it was very much like an egg shell-off white with a Formica like surface. Another way might be to laminate some thin luan door skin. You would only be adding a pound or two and it certainly would be stronger.

Bob Werre



On 5/17/12 7:07 PM, Jim and Cheryl Martin wrote:
Thanks to all who responded. I'm definitely going to take a closer look at this site: http://www.trainweb.org/nbrandn/standards.htm
Thanks Bob

Some members of the The S Scale Workshop, myself included, are looking ahead to the third generation of our travelling layout, keeping our existing interface standards, while seeking to reduce the amount of weight we have to carry...hence the interest in Gator foam board. The trick here is not to obsolete any of the older, heavier modules that some members may want to keep active.

I also realize that a freestanding layout can be too light if someone should push against it at a train show. The ultimate solution might be modules we can set on the sort of tables one finds at train show venues. There's still a lot of thinking to be done, but I hope to start building something new this summer in the garage.

Bob W. mentioned that the Gator board surface is easily punctured. That's true. I was able to do so simply by rapping a sample piece with my knuckle. I had been demonstrating the strength of the stuff by putting a piece of half-inch foam between two stools and standing on it. However, once I had punctured the surface of the sample piece, it broke in half on the next demonstration.

Jim Martin

*From:* Robert Frascella <[email protected]>
*To:* [email protected]
*Sent:* Thursday, May 17, 2012 9:21:40 AM
*Subject:* Re: {S-Scale List} Help please

Jim,
If you're looking to build really light weight modules take a look at the construction details from this Rhode Island On30 modular group:
http://www.trainweb.org/nbrandn/standards.htm
I was really impressed with the strength of their modules considering how light weight they are. Some really cool framing ideas there.
Bob Frascella
Wenham, MA

On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 9:05 AM, Jim and Cheryl Martin <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

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