Youn don't know what confused is.  Wait until you are 90.
John Armstrong
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: rhettgraves 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 5:27 PM
  Subject: {S-Scale List} Re: Confused, really really confused...


    
  Greg,

  I got my information here:

  http://www.thedieselshop.us/Data%20EMD%20GP9.HTML
  http://www.thedieselshop.us/Data%20EMD%20GP35.HTML

  It looks like your measurements compare to the center bolster measurement on 
this website. I'll check my ICG locomotive diagram books as I'm all but 
positive they'll have the measurement right. In any case, there is a difference 
and it is noticeable. Especially if you pay attention to the distance between 
the trucks and the pilots. 

  It was also pointed out that I was incorrect on the truck axle centers. It's 
the EMD trucks that are too big by 4" rather than the AAR Type B trucks being 
too small by 4". 

  I buy into the notion that we build caricatures of railroads moreso than 
exact scale models of railroads. Once one gets over the fact that they can't do 
everything to exact scale, it becomes a matter of degrees as to how much 
caricaturization you'll accept. For me, it has to look right to my eye. I won't 
stress over 6", but 12" or more (in any scale, I've found) will require some 
neat visual tricks to get it to "look right". 

  Best Regards,
  Rhett Graves

  --- In [email protected], "Greg" <gelems@...> wrote:
  >
  > Rhett,
  > 
  > A minor correction to some truck centers if I may. The prototype GP9 had 
31' centers and the GP35 had 32' centers. I checked two sources for the 
prototype and they both matched on the truck centers. Drawings from RMC tend to 
have errors but the drawings in Mainline Modeler are accurate and those are the 
references I was checking. So I measured my AM GP9 and it comes out to 31'9". 
It appears that the AM GP9 has a centering of 9" too long and AM GP35 is only 
3" too close. 
  > 
  > But to settle this, I can measure actual GP9's and a GP30 to see what 
exactly they are. The GP30 and GP35 have the same truck center according to the 
drawings and all the info I've accumulated over the last 40 years.
  > 
  > Greg Elems
  > Reno, NV
  > 
  > --- In [email protected], "rhettgraves" <rcandamoonpie@> wrote:
  > >
  > > 
  > > GP35 - Built on the GP9 frame. A GP9 was 40' between the truck >centers 
while the GP35 was 43'. They were the same overall length, so >the GP35 shell 
is good. The trucks are just too close together.
  > > 
  > > 
  > > Regard,
  > > Rhett Graves
  > > Huntsville, AL
  > > 
  > >
  >



  

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