Hasn't this thread just about run its course? I'd like to know jf Ed L. passed the bottle test over those derailed pilot wheels on that Sunset engine.
Besides, S converts come because of their own initiative, not because of anything we do. I found that out years ago. boB Nicholson _________________________________________________ --- In [email protected], Michael Greene <mgreene@...> wrote: > > Bill, > > On targeted promotions -- you're absolutely right -- that was mis-worded in > my earlier note. They do work and we should use them to get new S modelers > from numerous avenues. > > On where new S converts will come from -- I believe that now and in the > future we need to look to the smaller scales for new converts -- that's where > the largest opportunity is -- both in numbers and rationale. And for those we > will need targeted promotions, for those modelers are more likely to look for > the "scale" aspects of S... > > As to the other avenue I mentioned -- I do see a steady decline in new S > converts coming from the aspect of what they had in their youth. But I think > the decline is not nearly as steep as some think. I could have easily been in > that camp, had my Dad bought AF instead of Lionel as my first train set (? > his first one :-) as I think I was 1 year old when we got it ) and I'm only > in my mid-fifties. So I hope that decline (due to the mortality rate) is not > too steep :-) -- just a personal interest! And at the same time I think back > over the last several shows our club has done, and the interested people the > club talks with (some of which turn into new club members) who are > gravitating to S because they had AF as a kid. So I think that avenue still > has some prospects. And in many cases, when these folks see the much > improved products we have today in S, they will (and are) actually > gravitating to the newer products, new technologies like TMCC & DCC, and will > more than likely end up in Earl Henry's High-Scaler group -- looking for and > enjoying much more realism & detail in their models, even while retaining > some things like hi-rail wheels and such. And the fact is that manufacturers > such as Lionel will really help with that -- with their more detailed models > and plug and play electronics. (It seems to me that their new SD70ACe is the > first S friendly model, in terms of power & electronics, on the market -- it > seems it doesn't really matter what control system you prefer, the SD70ACe > just plays nice with all of them. And it allows the modeler to use one system > at home and perhaps another system at their club -- all with the same loco.) > > Regards > Michael > > Sent from my iPad > > On Feb 20, 2013, at 10:44 PM, "scale S only" <scalesonly@...> wrote: > > > Hi Mike -- > > > > As always, good to have you chime in. > > > > My only question is: How many more people are there that are likely to come > > to S because of the American Flyer they had as kids? It seems to me (and > > I am NOT an authority here) that the era in which this occurred now makes > > most of these people senior citizens. > > > > I think that we need to really start looking towards the day when our new S > > scalers are brought in from the more currently used scales, much as you > > came > > from N and I from HO (though I will admit to always having a liking for S, > > just not the ability to have it). I think your comment about targeted > > promotions was misworded -- it seems to make more sense, to me, if we DO > > have targeted promotions. Any suggestions from anyone on how to do this > > better would be nice to hear. > > > > Have fun! > > Bill Winans > > ---------------------------- > > (edited) > > > > I want to echo this comment (below) from Bill Winans. To move S forward we > > need to pull together as much as we can. ...it seems ... many S modelers > > have a genetic trait to look for divisions as often as possible. In this > > case "divide and conquer" will IMHO not work to grow the scale. > > > > That doesn't mean we should have targeted promotions -- people will come to > > S from many different avenues. And what will appeal to someone coming from > > HO or N will not be the same as what appeals to someone coming to S with > > the > > goal of wanting to re-live the fun of their AF experience as a kid. In fact > > targeted promotional work will be key in some areas -- much like the S > > Scale > > SIG is doing. But one targeted promotion does not mean we need to exclude > > others. ... > > > > Best regards > > Michael Greene > > > > --------------------------- > >> I would also add that is does not diminish the need for S modelers of all > >> persuasions to participate in the NASG, if they want the organization to > >> survive and be a force for the advancement of the scale. > > Bill Winans > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Yahoo! 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