I have seen the same issue as Michael, speed table set to all zeros. And as he says, a decoder reset fixes it. If your DCC system allows it, you could also just try running in 128 speed steps. If it is the speed table issue, it should run fine in 128 speed steps.

Bill

On 3/27/2013 9:02 AM, Michael Greene wrote:
Steve,

For the problem you've seen, here's the most likely scenario bsaed on what I have seen. My comments are based on your comment that it doesn't not seem to move in 14 or 28 speed step mode, but works fine in 128 speed step mode.

On the SD70ACe (I think this holds true for the Y-3 as well), in DCC mode, the decoder logic always uses the 28 speed step table when it is controlled in either 14 or 28 speed step mode. Use of the speed table in 14/28 speed step mode is always the case. BTW the decoder logic is pretty smart -- even if it is being controlled in 14 speed step mode, it still applies the speed step table -- which removes some complexity seen with other decoders where the actual user needs to worry about have the decoder and the cab in sync as to the 14 or 28 speed step mode.

In 128 speed step mode, the decoder logic does not/will not use the 28 speed step table. It always uses direct drive of the motor.

We have seen a couple of cases where the the speed step table gets wiped -- all entries set to zero, which of course means if you are controlling the loco in 14/28 speed step mode, the loco does not move at all. You can actually check to see if this is what happened by reading the CV values in the speed step table range -- most likely they will all be zero. (Be aware that Lionel has documented that many DCC systems will need a programming track booster to be able to reliably read CV values. See the SD70ACe Owner's Manual page 4 for Lionel's note on this.)

So fixing the speed step table can be handled one of two ways (based on my experience): 1) do a factory reset of the decoder (write any value to CV8 and give the decoder a minute or so to complete the full the reset) -- this will reload the speed table to the factory default vales, along with the other CVs 2) load you own speed table -- this approach is desirable if you have made lots of CV changes and don't want to do a factory reset

I've used both approaches successfully.

Regards
Michael

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On Mar 27, 2013, at 8:04 AM, Steven Lunde <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Ben,
Try it with your throttle in 128 step mode. We had the same problem, switched to 128 and it worked. Don't ask why.
Steve Lunde

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*Subject:* {S-Scale List} SD70ACe

I'm seriously not getting something in DCC mode. I put the monster on the tracks, get the sound going, the lighting and sound functions work, but it won't move. Can someone out there help?
Ben Trousdale





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