Anytime on any list you will find some discussion on cleaning this or that. Peter and I live about 20 miles apart, we have essentially some of the same engines, rolling stock and perhaps even rail. Peter's layout is in a spare bedroom (I would guess) while mine is in a purpose built home addition. Because it only has a simple wall/window AC/heating unit I probably have more dust/dirt issues than he does. Our big difference might be that I probably have 10X the length of track and all the things that go into it.

My experiences are thus: I do clean my track a couple of times a year, with either a couple of CenterLines, a boxcar mounted Masonite pad plus hand rubbing in some stubborn areas, frogs, points etc. I will ocassionally find a tiny area--maybe a 1/2" that has a fair amount of crud built up. I've never been able to find the source--perhaps some kind of mystery bug leaving deposits.

I also have issues where a train doesn't pass through--a spur or dead end siding. Because we have a tendanacy to just shove cars in and out the cleaning cars don't do well there while hand rubbing near structures can be dicey too. I have 4 SHS switch engines from various runs. Three seem to always respond right away and run well, but one seems to need frequent wheel attention--don't know why as they're not really dirty, but some liquid wheel cleaner will be it back. The bulk of my road engines rarely need wheel cleaning--maybe once a year. Steam engines are a mix bag, but it's always the tender wheels that build up crud--drivers rarely.

Now let's add a third Houston area modeler--our mutual friend Rusty. I don't think Rusty has cleaned some of engine's wheels ever--and we are talking two decades in some cases. He mentioned one time that the pilot wheels on his Rex Mogul kept derailing. He finally found the entire wheel was filled with junk to where the flange was nearly covered over, but the engine still ran. He is a believer of the Wahl clipper oil. During a session things started out pretty jerky. He put some oil on the rails and in a half hour things smoothed out nicely--go figure. One time I sat down and cleaned his freight cars wheels (many being the old Ace plastic version)--there weren't many that were clean. My guess is that that oil picked up the dust and dirt from the rail and put it all on the non electrical wheels--especially those plastic ones. So one might be wise to have a few cars with plastic wheels just to collect the dirt on the rails and it seems like some light oil will help that along.

Peter is unhappy with his Digitrax system. Another good friend is about ready to toss his out. It's a very large system--about 3000 square feet in area. The system has been expanded and in that process something has gone wrong. I had an issue after doing some minor modifications, but after a bit of work things came together again, although I still keep my eyes and ears ready for trouble. Overall most of the problems folks have are the same as DC or AC. Whether battery control for all our engines ever happens, I really don't care unless someone wants to have me test their system and I'll let them try an installation in my PBL Heisler first.

Regarding sound engines--the newer decoders can be set to turn off after a short while. So put the switch engine aside and either wait a minute or two or you can do a shut down and the engine will wind down very realistically. Need to move a couple of cars--bring back the address and it'll start up very nicely.

Bob Werre
PhotoTraxx




On 3/27/13 12:10 PM, Peter Vanvliet wrote:

Hi Dave,

My tests with applying metal polish to the rails helped remove all stalling problems for about two months and then it was back again. I am not a metal expert, but I did find that I have to clean the wheels of my American Models engines before each run. The SHS switcher I only clean before and after a club show. The RS-1 (north yard chassis) gets slightly dirtier easier than the SHS switcher. So, yes, when I mentioned dirty rail, I really meant dirty rail *and* dirty wheels (and the chore of cleaning the wheels too).

 - Peter.


On 03/27/2013 11:58 am, ctxmf74 wrote:
--- [email protected], Peter Vanvliet<groups@...>  wrote:
a) I was tired of the stalling of the engines, and the subsequent
cleaning-of-track chore.

   Are you sure it was a track problem and not a wheel problem? I never have 
problems with track but I have had locos with wheels that oxidized and caused 
them to stall, then the solution was just a new set of NWSL wheels..DaveBranum




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