A couple of years ago I bought my first original AF diesel. This unit is a
satin Rocket 474.

The reverse unit has always been a little ornery in this diesel.

I have a few LTI diesels and several steam original AF engines.

Anyway this was my first experience with an original AF twin motor diesel.

On with the Story...


I decided to do a rebuild on this unit. I have always prided myself in how
smooth my reverse units work in all my steamers and how well they all run,
but this diesel is eating my lunch.

I turned the armatures and put new brushes in the motors and then lubed
everything up. I have a little chassis wear in the axle bushings, but not
bad so elected not to do this rebuild.

The reverse unit looked reasonably good so I polished the drum, made sure
everything was free in the ratchet mechanism and set the fingers so they had
minimal drag on the drum, but still provided good contact. There were a
couple of dings in the drum between contacts, but the didn't look bad and I
deburred the craters so they wouldn't be as apt to catch the fingers.

Well the unit didn't improve much. It pulls better, runs cooler and draws
less amps, but the reverse unit is not as silky smooth as my steamers.

(What I mean by this is low voltage to drive the ratchet solenoid for the
drum and no movement of the engine to create the shift.)

Well, I pulled the unit back apart and put in a new drum, and new original
fingers (I think the originals are a little less stiff than the repros I
have). Ok so I now have done everything I know. New drum, check coil
resistance and compare force to a good working reverse unit from a steamer,
smooth everything on mechanism.

Test operation with the unit suspended where the wheels don't touch the
ground would still require more of a hit with transformer voltage to shift
than I think is proper.

The reverse unit shifts nicely when the wires are unsoldered to the two
drive motors/fields.

My conclusion after messing with this all this time is that there is
sufficient voltage drop/current draw to the motors that this is just the way
an old dual motor chassis works. This shows up in a more positive shift with
from neutral to power than from either powered position to neutral.

So what am I missing here?

I thought about running a wires up to the coil on the reverse units from the
contact shoes thinking that this would to some extent reduce the voltage
drop through the normal path, and provide track voltage direct to the coil,
but haven't tried it yet.

Does anyone have one of these dual motor diesel chassis that shifts like a
steamer?



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