Summing up. Just added Joe's & Flavio's suggestions & thoughts. Please find the provided link: http://pastebin.com/M83sB2z8.
Your comments are still valuable! On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 11:43 AM, FPJ <fpjunque...@yahoo.com> wrote: > I'm not sure we are on the same page. We have had a couple of threads now > about graduation and the threads started with someone from the IPMC asking > us about it. Given that we haven't been able to conclude what to do with > respect to graduation (that's my conclusion out of the message threads), I > would suggest we explain it in the report. To perhaps rephrase what I > already said, activity has been low but we got some developers standing up > and stating they would keep the project going. Given that there is some > revived interest, I suggest we keep the project alive and see how it > evolves during the next 3 months. I think all this should figure in the > report. > > I'm also fine to have Joe as a mentor if he is interested. Do we need to > have a PPMC vote for this? > > About the status page, it is our page. We should look into updating it. I > remember having some discussion about updating it, but I can't recall what > happened. > > About the podling name, we have created a jira a while back and it is not > resolved yet: > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-10 > > About a new committer, we voted Daniel Gómez Ferro a committer. It is in > one of the quarterly reports I have sent previously. > > -Flavio > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: olegtikho...@gmail.com [mailto:olegtikho...@gmail.com] On Behalf > > Of Oleg Tikhonov > > Sent: 02 September 2013 06:05 > > To: s4-dev@incubator.apache.org > > Subject: Re: draft of ASF board report > > > > Thanks, valuable feedbacks are, indeed. > > > > @Flavio - agree with Joe, it's not about graduation, it's about > inactivity. > > Fortunately, the S4 community was & is biting & kicking. > > On the other hand, it's my personal opinion, any "project in incubator" > > must tend to be TLP. > > > > About mentoring - Good mentor is worth for the project, and for sure > > he/she should be responsive. If Joe would like to step up as a mentor - > so be > > it, IMO. > > > > @Joe > > "Note that the community has also been failing to keep the incubator > status > > page up to date. The last status report listed was from 2012, but there > have > > been status reports since. IIRC, someone has been added as a committer, > > but is not listed yet under project info. The last release > > (0.6.0) is not listed on the incubator status page either." > > > > Who can fix that? Or how to fix it? > > > > >Has the podling name search been completed? > > May be open the JIRA for the issue? Definitely we should accomplish the > task > > ASAP. > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Oleg > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 2:29 AM, Joe Brockmeier <j...@zonker.net> wrote: > > > > > On Sun, Sep 1, 2013, at 03:50 PM, Flavio Junqueira wrote: > > > > Thanks for putting it together, Oleg. Here are some suggestions for > > > > two parts of the proposal: > > > > > > > > - Any issued the IPMC should be aware of: I would include two things > > > > here. First, we have been asked about graduation. We haven't been > > > > able to conclude whether we should graduate or not. One particular > > > > problem we have been having is with growth of the community. I would > > > > say that in a recent e-mail thread, we have received very positive > > > > feedback from some developers, so we would like to remain in > > > > incubation for a little longer so that we can get some traction. > > > > Second, one of our mentors hasn't been responsive, so we need to find > > another mentor. > > > > > > I think the primary issue here is not graduation, per se, it's the > > > inactivity. It doesn't seem to me there's much going on in the S4 > > > community. In March, the dev mailing list was reasonably busy (132 > > > messages) and then that's dwindled to less than 35 per month since > > > March. > > > > > > There was no activity in git on August at all. A little in July, more > > > in June. > > > > > > *If* there's enough interest on the community side to keep the project > > > going, then I'd be happy to step up as a mentor. Right now, I'm very > > > concerned that the project lacks a diverse/large enough community to > > > remain healthy. > > > > > > Note that the community has also been failing to keep the incubator > > > status page up to date. The last status report listed was from 2012, > > > but there have been status reports since. IIRC, someone has been added > > > as a committer, but is not listed yet under project info. The last > > > release > > > (0.6.0) is not listed on the incubator status page either. > > > > > > Also: Has the podling name search been completed? I saw that > > > referenced on another report, and it's still listed as needed on the > status > > page. > > > This needs to be completed if it hasn't been. > > > > > > > - Has the community developed since the last report? I would say > > > > that we have been seeing some traffic on the mailing lists, mostly > > > > questions about how to use S4, but the code contributions have been > > fairly minimal. > > > > > > It looks to me like the community has actually shrunk since the last > > > report, but I could be missing something. > > > > > > Would like to see S4 turn this around and grow its community and get > > > ready to graduate, but I think graduation would be premature at this > > > point. > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > jzb > > > -- > > > Joe Brockmeier > > > j...@zonker.net > > > Twitter: @jzb > > > http://www.dissociatedpress.net/ > > > > >
