Wow! Well done. Thanks guys. I added our suggestions, thoughts & intentions to the report. If you don't mind also put Kurtt Lin such great words in it.
On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 6:16 AM, Renato Marroquín Mogrovejo < renatoj.marroq...@gmail.com> wrote: > Great work Kurtt Lin! Keep new features coming! > > > Renato M. > > > 2013/9/3 Kurtt Lin <kurtt....@gmail.com> > > > Hi, Flavio, Matthieu, Patrick, and all > > > > Cheer up, guys. I'm seeing opportunities in this stream processing field > as > > well as in S4. What I haven’t mentioned is that, S4 had found successful > > applications in our research group even back in the 0.3.0 days and now in > > our start-up. We have built scalable real time search over microblogs > with > > some S4 features enhanced (the paper appears in 2013’s EDBT proceedings, > > link is > > http://www.edbt.org/Proceedings/2013-Genova/papers/edbt/a31-lin.pdf); > > we also built a platform on top of S4 for detecting and analyzing > real-time > > traffic conditions, processing over hundreds of millions of records every > > day. > > > > Now we plan to contribute to the community. I personally have created and > > responded to some JIRAs, but I would like to do more. Actually, I am > > ongoing proposing a design documentation of integrating S4 with Helix > along > > the roadmap; this would help enhancing the elasticity feature for S4. > > > > So, I suppose we could put the "retirement" discussion aside? Give us the > > new comers some time perhaps a couple of months to see what we can do to > > make the community healthier. Of course, some of us are new; we shall ask > > for your help and guidance occasionally, please be responsive (as what > you > > are doing now), :) > > > > You all have done brilliant jobs! :) > > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 6:45 AM, Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > > Correct, I was referring to the rece > > > > > > nt thread about shutting down the > > > s4 podling. In the incubator that's called "retirement" > > > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/retirement.html > > > > > > Glad to see folks stepping up! > > > > > > Patrick > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Flavio Junqueira < > fpjunque...@yahoo.com> > > > wrote: > > > > I think Pat is referring to the discussion we have had when I > proposed > > > to retire the project. I didn't use this exact word, but it is > > essentially > > > what I meant. You and a few others stepped up and said that you > wouldn't > > > like to see it retiring and would like to give it a shot at helping > with > > > building a community, contributing patches, and just increasing > activity > > in > > > general. > > > > > > > > Does it make sense? > > > > > > > > -Flavio > > > > > > > > On Sep 3, 2013, at 8:27 PM, Oleg Tikhonov <o...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > > > > >> the item 3 - deleted completely. > > > >> > > > >> Can you shed more light on "retirement" discussion. I am new here > and > > > >> probably missed it. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 7:42 PM, Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org> > > wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> I would remove 3 entirely - that's not needed for graduation. > > > >>> > > > >>> You should also mention the result of the "retirement" discussion - > > > >>> give the ipmc/board some insight: that folks stepped up and are > > > >>> pushing forward, i.e. no retirement at this point. > > > >>> > > > >>> Patrick > > > >>> > > > >>> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 7:57 AM, Oleg Tikhonov <o...@apache.org> > > wrote: > > > >>>> Thanks ! > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Added Patrick's & Flavio's comments. > > > >>>> http://pastebin.com/M83sB2z8 > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Is there anything else? > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Cheers, > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Oleg > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 12:51 PM, FPJ <fpjunque...@yahoo.com> > wrote: > > > >>>> > > > >>>>> When you say put out more releases, do you mean more in number or > > > having > > > >>>>> releases more frequently? S4 has had two releases already, but > the > > > >>>>> frequency > > > >>>>> of releases has been low in the past. I think activity is a real > > > issue. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Your point 2 is a good summary of what I've been trying to say. > We > > > are > > > >>> on > > > >>>>> the same page there. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> -Flavio > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> -----Original Message----- > > > >>>>>> From: Patrick Hunt [mailto:ph...@apache.org] > > > >>>>>> Sent: 03 September 2013 06:42 > > > >>>>>> To: s4-dev@incubator.apache.org > > > >>>>>> Subject: Re: draft of ASF board report > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> I have a few comments: > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> 1) I don't think the issues listed in "Three most important > issues > > > to > > > >>>>> address in > > > >>>>>> the move towards graduation" are apropos. What you want to list > > here > > > >>> is > > > >>>>>> things blocking graduation. IMO this is two things; 1) put out > > more > > > >>>>> releases, > > > >>>>>> and 2) build community (of which 2 is more important at this > > point) > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> 2) I think you should also include mention of a PPMC member > > > requesting > > > >>>>>> that the podling be retired - and the results of that > discussion. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Patrick > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Joe Brockmeier <j...@zonker.net> > > > >>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013, at 11:34 AM, Matthieu Morel wrote: > > > >>>>>>>> Thanks for the effort! That looks good to me, except maybe > that > > in > > > >>> my > > > >>>>>>>> view the real issue about graduation is the activity. Adding > > more > > > >>>>>>>> requirements will only raise up the bar for graduation. > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> I think the IPMC would expect to see a more active and > > > >>> self-governing > > > >>>>>>> project before voting for graduation, whether or not the > podling > > > >>> puts > > > >>>>>>> that down as an issue. (See: > > > >>>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community) > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Best, > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> jzb > > > >>>>>>> -- > > > >>>>>>> Joe Brockmeier > > > >>>>>>> j...@zonker.net > > > >>>>>>> Twitter: @jzb > > > >>>>>>> http://www.dissociatedpress.net/ > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >
