Dear comrades Freedom House is not a secret organisation. It is a public and transparent institution with some US government funding and a liberal democratic and human rights agenda. It is very easy to research such matters. What you need to decide is: does your ideological rigidity preclude you from working with such an institution? Is there any advantage to you in doing so? Can you do so while maintaining your integrity and keeping to your goals?
My position on such matters is, if you are clear about your goals, and do not compromise your principles, then it can be advantageous to form alliances or accept resources from such organisations. But this needs to be transparent and decided upon on the basis of knowledge and understanding. Janet On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Cyril Masilela <masilel...@yahoo.com> wrote: > Cde Mkhululi, > > Why are you shy in telling us what is the freedom house, or if you do not > know about it, why bother to bring further confusion to this forum. > > Or can i ask differently maybe you can shed some light. > > Why is it wrong for the CPS to bring something about the freedom house in > this forum. Are you freedom house yourself? Is it that why you cannot > describe it? > > The CPS had issued statements since its launch in this forum or you are a > new comer in this forum or else you ignored those statements. > > Most of the CPS basic documents are still available in this forum. Can you > go through them and you shall be assisted with clarity by the comrades who > had issued them on behalf of the CPS, that is why their contacts are at the > bottom of each posting. > From: mkhululi nkosi <mkhululink...@gmail.com> > To: sa-swaziland-solidarity-eom-forum@googlegroups.com > Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2011 4:44 AM > Subject: Re: [SSN Forum] Re: Statement of the Communist Party of Swaziland > on the manipulating of Swazi Struggle > > Cdes, > > Why now cde Masilela? You are a member of the CPS at least on one > instance you posted some material from the CPS. You accuse the freedom > house yet you do not know what it stabds for. > > The issue at hand is:" whether is it prudent for the CPS to attack the > Freedom House in a public forum like this one?". I call for restrain. > It is fine to engage on the political question "who are our friends? > But to ask this question in a public domain it not right. Cyril what > is the CPS, what is it struggle credential? You will shocked to find > the standing of some of its leaders in the movement. Yes, now you know > what iam talking about. > Wayforward: Stop the discussion in this forum and lets engage in > organisational forums. > > AMANDLA! > > On 7/6/11, Dominic Tweedie <dominic.twee...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Hi Cde Lucky, >> >> I was not aware that we were in unity with *Freedom >> House<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_House#Criticism> >> *. >> >> I wonder if Freedom House has announced its alliance with us communists so >> openly? >> >> Does Hilary Clinton know about it? >> >> Whatever may be the case with Freedom House, it remains a possibility that >> the Swaziland uprising will be converted into a "colour revolution" >> delivering a Georgian-style or Uzbekistan-style monstrosity. >> >> Freedom House is not the only player on the "colour revolution" side of >> the >> board. >> >> These things can be talked about, in my opinion. How can we not talk about >> them? >> >> In the case of Egypt, Mubarak was removed but everything else is still in >> place. In Swaziland, the monarch can be pushed off the stage leaving the >> other oligarchs still in charge. Or we could get a Kerensky, or any other >> kind of demagogue. >> >> The Swazi masses need to be prepared for the possibility that their >> revolution could be hijacked or sold away in boardrooms full of "allies". >> >> Those assemblies where the communists are not present are not altogether >> bona fide, in my opinion. >> >> Are you telling us that the liberals do not talk about the communists, Cde >> Lucky? If not, then I hope you have sent your lesson on unity over to that >> side, as well. >> >> The component parts of any alliance do maintain their independence. >> >> For a revolution of the whole people! >> >> For a People's Democratic Dictatorship! >> >> >> VC >> >> >> >> >> On 6 July 2011 17:24, Lukhele, Lucky <lucky.lukh...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> The SSN welcome all statements and debates from all progressives >>> oganisation pushing for the democratisation of Swaziland however we >>> will call for all comrades to avoid conspiracy theories and accusing >>> oganisation and people that are in solidarity with the people of >>> Swaziland in particular the accusation directed to The Freedom House >>> by the CPS. Unity is all what we need now. >>> >>> On Jul 5, 1:22 pm, mkhululi nkosi <mkhululink...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > Cdes, if you are, this is not the time for figure pointing and playing >>> > kings of the struggle. It time to organize and strengthen the >>> > movement. You are nowhere when required to give guidance on the ground >>> > the only time we hear of CPS is in this forum. Just be relevant. >>> > >>> > On 7/5/11, Kenneth Kunene <ken.ma...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > > Description: cpc >>> > >>> > > Statement of the Communist Party of Swaziland (CPS) on attempts to >>> undermine >>> > > the democratic revolutionary course of Swaziland's transition >>> > >>> > > Now that Swaziland is on the verge of far-reaching change, with the >>> > > Tinkhundla system teetering on the brink of collapse, we are seeing a >>> > > scramble by reactionary forces to try to take the initiative in the >>> name of >>> > > the pro-democracy movement and set the agenda for Swaziland's future. >>> > >>> > > These forces, which have received backing from the US, via the >>> > > Freedom >>> House >>> > > programmes, and from elements in South Africa's elite circles, are >>> > > attempting to manipulate certain sections of the pro-democracy >>> > > movement >>> by >>> > > inviting a select few of their members to consultations. They then >>> pretend >>> > > that the main pro-democracy organisations and parties backed the >>> outcomes of >>> > > these consultations. >>> > >>> > > This was the case with the statement of the "Swaziland Mass >>> > > Democratic >>> > > Movement" issued on 24 June, which was not openly decided upon or >>> > > given >>> a >>> > > mandate by most of the organisations that appear as signatories to >>> > > the >>> > > statement. >>> > >>> > > When we look at the content of the statement, we see that though it >>> > > is >>> > > dripping with worthy sentiment, and while it contains echoes of the >>> demands >>> > > that the CPS and others on the left in Swaziland have promoted, the >>> purpose >>> > > is to water down the call for revolutionary change in Swaziland. >>> > >>> > > The CPS has set out ideas on the basic content of this revolutionary >>> > > transition. It envisages the convening of a Conference for a >>> > > Democratic >>> > > Swaziland at which all representatives of all pro-democracy forces >>> > > are >>> > > present, and that this includes strong representation of our urban >>> > > and >>> rural >>> > > grassroots communities. >>> > >>> > > It also envisages the start of a nationwide dialogue to stimulate and >>> > > nurture the involvement of the people - the majority of whom are the >>> workers >>> > > and the poor - in designing and participating in a new democratic >>> > > path >>> for >>> > > our country. Unless there is the deep involvement of our communities >>> > > in >>> this >>> > > process, the transition we seek will fall into the hands of party and >>> > > movement gatekeepers and careerists and will have no real popular >>> mandate. >>> > > The people must govern! >>> > >>> > > We also envisage that this process, of which the Conference for a >>> Democratic >>> > > Swaziland would be the main engine, will result in the creation of an >>> > > Interim Government. We have made clear that the work of this >>> government, as >>> > > set out by the Conference, must be first and foremost to address the >>> > > economic catastrophe that faces our country and, in doing so, must >>> > > prioritise emergency action on the worst aspects of the plight of our >>> people >>> > > - particularly in the areas of health, food and water security and >>> > > livelihoods. >>> > >>> > > It is the view of the CPS that major steps must be taken to >>> > > expropriate >>> the >>> > > resources currently wasted ruinously on and by the monarchy. All the >>> wealth >>> > > of enterprises wholly or part-owned by the monarchy must be used for >>> the >>> > > Emergency National Economic Plan that the Interim Government will >>> > > have >>> to >>> > > implement. The state of crisis in Swaziland and the severe suffering >>> > > of >>> our >>> > > people necessitate both wealth redistribution and cooperative >>> > > building >>> and >>> > > state planning of a fundamental nature. >>> > >>> > > The democratic transition must be that of a republic and the current >>> monarch >>> > > and his household must become private citizens accountable to society >>> and >>> > > the republic in the same way that all other citizens will be. This is >>> > > similar to the position of the Zulu King within South Africa's >>> republican >>> > > constitution. >>> > >>> > > It is our view that these steps constitute the basic necessary >>> framework for >>> > > our country to move beyond the oppression and ruin imposed by the >>> Mswati >>> > > autocracy. These steps are not necessary because the CPS says they >>> > > are. >>> They >>> > > are necessary because without them, or if they are not implemented >>> fully, >>> > > Swaziland's transition will fail to be truly democratic and will fail >>> to >>> > > tackle the crisis affecting our people. Half measures will betray our >>> > > people! >>> > >>> > > We should therefore be very wary of initiatives that embrace and >>> support the >>> > > feel-good and superficial aspects of democratic freedom but which >>> carefully >>> > > sidestep the imperatives of people's hegemony over all aspects of >>> governance >>> > > and economic power. >>> > >>> > > The agenda of capitalist interests in Swaziland, South Africa and >>> further >>> > > away in the US and Europe is to rid Swaziland of its more >>> > > embarrassing >>> > > autocratic features while keeping the country safe for sweatshop >>> > > labour >>> > > exploitation, and private land use, mineral prospecting and tourism. >>> > >>> > > We must be under no illusions concerning the lengths >>> capitalist/imperialist >>> > > interests will go to in order to keep business as usual behind the >>> > > mask >>> of >>> > > skin-deep democracy. We have only to look at the vicious assaults by >>> > > capital on South Africa's socialist-oriented efforts to see how such >>> > > programmes are targeted, often under the guise of liberal democratic >>> > > handwringing. >>> > >>> > > And so we now see that with Swaziland these same forces are >>> > > flattering >>> > > aspects of the pro-democracy movement (or are brazenly pretending to >>> have >>> > > the outright support of the movement) in order to set an agenda of >>> > > transformation that does not seriously address the issues facing our >>> people. >>> > > The point is to eliminate Swaziland's socialist forces (which are >>> spread >>> > > widely throughout the pro-democracy movement) and any hint of a >>> socialist >>> > > path - the only just and fair path - for our country. >>> > >>> > > We call on all in the pro-democracy movement to be acutely aware of >>> both >>> > > subtle and not so subtle attempts to derail Swaziland's potential to >>> create >>> > > true democracy and true freedom for its people. We call for immediate >>> steps >>> > > within the movement to set the modalities and start to generate the >>> content >>> > > of the Conference for a Democratic Swaziland. This Conference must be >>> > > a >>> > > process that reaches every corner of our country and involves all our >>> > > citizens as fully as possible. We need to act in unity to create the >>> > > strongest possible surge toward democracy. And we need to isolate all >>> > > attempts to water down our revolutionary goals. >>> > >>> > > Yes to Swaziland's National Democratic Revolution! >>> > >>> > > No to pretend democracy to keep capitalism happy at the expense of >>> > > the >>> > > working class and poor! 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