I am not sure, in fact I think that we should change gnome code for that, if
any one has an idea how to do that, it will be welcome.

2009/12/19 Hasan Syed <[email protected]>

> Wa alaikum Salaam wa Rahmatullah
>
> Is it easy to implement at least one of the suggestions - changing the name
> of the "Music" folder to "Sound" or "Audio"?
> Hasan
>
> 2009/12/13 Abdelmonam Kouka <[email protected]>
>
>  Assalamo alaykom wa rahmato Allah,
>>
>> Thanks a lot brother for this effort wa barakallaho fik, be sure we will
>> discuss this inshalla and we will applicate most of your suggestion in the
>> next release inshalla (10.04) since we haven't time to do that in the actual
>> release (9.10).
>>
>> After 27/12/2009 we will start discussions about points in your mail
>> inshalla.
>>
>> Assalamo alaykom
>>
>> Forwarded conversation
>> Subject: [sabily-users] The Bundling of the Applications in Sabily
>> ------------------------
>>
>> From: *macbatac* <[email protected]>
>> Date: 2009/12/13
>> To: Sabily <[email protected]>
>>
>>
>> Assalaamu'alaykoum wa Rohmatullaahi wa Baarokaatuhu.
>> Alhamdulillaahi Robbil 'aalamiin.
>>
>> I am very glad with next Sabily release. Insha Allah that's an event
>> we has been awaiting.
>> Before that release, I want to give suggestions, proposition, and
>> advice that Insha Allah will give much improvement to Sabily for the
>> next time. Please my brothers and sisters consider it.
>>
>>
>> *** ABOUT COMPARATION OF OTHER DISTROS ***
>> I ever installed, tried, and compared some Ubuntu derivative distros.
>> IMHO, maybe there are three good enough bundling from Ubuntu
>> derivative distros. Each other has superiority and also inferiority in
>> some applications bundled. But in a general way, that is relative
>> opinion for each user. Each of these distros have specific users whose
>> targeted. My attention is right to: Linux Mint, Crunchbang, and
>> Ultimate Edition (UE). This is my opinion of that comparation:
>>
>> -* Linux Mint has beautiful appearance and professional brand design
>> for the desktop. Linux Mint also has special native applications from
>> the developers and easy simple plugins supported by the default. The
>> special native applications give much ease for newbie and  GUI fans.
>> For example, there is an .mint format used by packages to add/remove
>> software so the user could install any program “by just one click”.
>> The developers remove Games category by the default on result target
>> for professional dan productive realm, also could bundled in just one
>> CD. The inferiority, it has cowsay (image of animal in ASCII) and
>> fortune (many entertaining quotes in terminal). In Islam, make an
>> image of living creature is not good. And the name of “fortune” has
>> contradiction meaning. As our learn from Allah's  religion (Islam),
>> there is no fortune except from Allah. And also I am worrying if there
>> are many sentences in quotes disfigure about God and religion. Likely
>> (if I'm not wrong remember) I ever found some of them. Subhaanallaah.
>>
>> -* Crunchbang has extra fast booting and access, save harddisk
>> capacity and memory. The developers of the distro make use of openbox
>> as window manager, and the distro has good management and good
>> modification. For the result, the features is not inferior to others
>> bigger desktop environment like XFCE and Gnome.  This distro users can
>> access the files and multimedia applications easily by point and
>> click. They also can modify the desktop by self easily. Some favourite
>> applications in terminal also has pre-installed.  Openbox could be
>> surplus for people who love minimalistic decoration, but can be a
>> shortage for they who prefer beautiful appearance.
>>
>> -* About UE, I never yet try to install it. However, if we go to the
>> website, it is seem like a distro with PLENTY applications,  features,
>> plugins, themes, desktop environment (KDE, Gnome, XFCE, etc), and
>> plenty options out-of-the-box. Except Zekr, Thwab, Minbar, and other
>> Islamic applications like we have. So, perhaps the user become doesn't
>> need or not urge to connected to the internet for installing any
>> addition programs. But this point (excessive applications) could be
>> also the demerits. People who don't like excessive number of
>> applications, extra capacity, crowded options, or don't feel need too
>> many extras; little possibilities they will take it.
>>
>> I hope my experience of compare other derivative distros could give us
>> insight to consider some better design for Sabily next time, and
>> Sabily have to be different with other distros.
>>
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>> ----------
>> From: *macbatac* <[email protected]>
>> Date: 2009/12/13
>> To: Sabily <[email protected]>
>>
>>
>> *** WHAT APPLICATIONS NEED TO BE REMOVED ***
>> There are some applications which need to be replaced. From my
>> postings before, I ever hoped that the games could be educational,
>> professional, productive purpose like used in schools or universities.
>> But now, in reality, I concern with the kids who become lazy or don't
>> like exercise their body for outdoor activity, learn to help the
>> parents in home activity, and something else, because they “busy”
>> playing the games. Also partly, there are games which has many living
>> creature image.
>>
>> In Al-Qur`an surah Al-Maa`idah [5] aayah 92, Allah said:
>>  وَأَطِيعُوا اللَّهَ وَأَطِيعُوا الرَّسُولَ وَاحْذَرُوا فَإِنْ
>> تَوَلَّيْتُمْ فَاعْلَمُوا أَنَّمَا عَلَى رَسُولِنَا الْبَلَاغُ
>> الْمُبِينُ
>> “And obey Allah and obey Rosul (the messenger), and beware! But if you
>> turn away, then know that the duty of Our messenger is only plain a
>> clear deliverance (of the message).”
>>
>> In Hadith Saheeh Al-Imaam Muslim (rohimahullaah), jouz'u 14 page 93:
>> ….. From Sa'id ibnu Abi Hasan rodiyallaahu'anhu ….... a man had came
>> to Ibnu 'Abbas rodiyallaahu'anhu …... (until statement of Ibnu 'Abbas,
>> he said): I heard Rosulullaah (Muhammad the messenger of Allah)
>> shollallaahu'alayhi wa sallam said,
>> كلّ مصوّر في النار, يجعل له بكلّ صورة صوّرها نفسا فتعذّبه في جهنّم
>> “All of the drawers (of living creature) are located in hell, the
>> images (ever they made) will get live spirit for them, then give them
>> torment in hell jahannam.”
>>
>> In Hadith Saheeh Al-Imaam Al-Bukhaary (rohimahullaah), jouz'u 10 page
>> 389: ….. From 'Aishah rodiyallaahu'anhaa ….... she had bought a pillow
>> which has living creature picture ....... (until statement of
>> Rosulullaah shollallaahu'alayhi wa sallam,) Rosulullaah said,
>> إنّ أصحاب هذه الصور يعذّبون يوم القيامة, يقال لهم: أحيوا ماخلقتم, وإنّ
>> الملائكة لا تدخل بيتا فيه الصورة
>> “Surely the makers of this pictures will be punished on the judgement
>> day, ordered to them: give life for anything ever you created!
>> And surely the angels (of mercy) will not enter to houses where an
>> image (of living creature) in there.”
>>
>>
>>
>> * Based on the Qur`an and Hadith Saheeh, I give my advice, there are
>> some applications which need to be removed:
>> 1. Potato guy
>> 2. Tux typing
>> 3. Tux math
>> 5. Tux paint
>> 6. Gcompris
>>
>> * And our aim for increase productivity, we need to remove other Games
>> category.
>> But other applications in Education category is doesn't need to be
>> removed.
>>
>> * And one more point has to be changed: The folder of “Music” renamed
>> with “Audio”.
>> From Abou Malik Al-'Ash`ary rodiyallaahu'anhu, Rosulullaah
>> shollallaahu'alayhi wa sallam said,
>> ليكوننّ من أمّتي أقوام يستحلّون الحرّ و الحرير و الخمر و المعازف
>> “Will be emerge surely, the people part of my society generations who
>> permitting fornication, silk (for men), liquor (anything intoxicate –
>> transltr), and musical devices.”
>> (Hadith Saheeh Al-Bukhaary)
>> Word of al-ma'aazif means song and musical devices.
>>
>> I call to my self, my brothers and my sisters to increase reading Al-
>> Qur`an.
>> May Allah give us guidance in every activity of our life.
>>
>> ----------
>> From: *macbatac* <[email protected]>
>> Date: 2009/12/13
>> To: Sabily <[email protected]>
>>
>>
>> *** WHAT APPLICATIONS NEED TO BE ADDED ***
>> We love Operating System which give Islamic environment, educational,
>> professional, and productive system. That is our spesific user target.
>> And of course for da'awa (Islam propagation). And based on my
>> comparation of distros above, I propose applications which needed by
>> our environment.
>>
>> The degree of each application popularity could be saw and considered
>> in menu Applications >> Add/Remove Applications. These is my
>> suggestion:
>>
>> LANGUAGE
>> - Add support for Malay and Indonesian language in Gnome and Firefox.
>> Because in both countries there are very large amount of muslims.
>>
>> OFFICE AND PRODUCTIVITY
>> - Openoffice math,
>> - Openoffice base.
>> - QiOO (OpenOffice.org  extension that support typing Qur`an aayah/
>> verses.)
>> # See: http://code.google.com/p/qioo
>> - Planner (project manager)
>> - kfocus (project management from KDE)
>> - gvim (GUI for vim editor)
>> - Kompozer (programming editor)
>> - OSMO Lightweight Personal Manager
>> - gVim (GUI for vim)
>>
>> FROM LINUX MINT's Applications currently release 8 codename Helena
>> (can be downloaded from http://packages.linuxmint.com)
>> - mintmenu (Configurable Slab-like main menu in gnome); depends mint-
>> common; mint-translations
>> - mintnanny (simple domain blocker)
>> - mintupload (easy upload manager);
>> - mintwifi (collection of wireless card drivers, support more than 40
>> kind of wifi card)
>>
>>
>> FILES AND MANAGEMENT
>> - nautilus-script-manager (like script manager in ubuntu-tweak)
>> - nautilus-script-audio-convert
>> - nautilus actions (nautilus extension to configure programs to launch
>> in context menu)
>> - nautilus-clamscan (a nautilus extension)
>> - nautilus-image-converter (a nautilus extension)
>> - pcmanfm (fast and lightweight file manager, support tabbed window,
>> partition mounting, change permission and other features)
>> - 7zip: p7zip, p7zip-full (support for compressing file in .7z
>> format)
>> - xfburn (lightweight CD/DVD burning like brasero)
>> - mrename (A tool for easy and automatic renaming of many files)
>> - pyrenamer (Mass file renamer written in PyGTK)
>>
>>
>>
>> EDUCATION
>> - GRAMPS (Genealogical Research and Analysis Management Program. We
>> could make image for family's tree, tracking our big family, then we
>> could make itu use for ilmou Al-Faraa`idh [a branch of knowledge/
>> science for studying wealth/property inheritance in Islam]).
>>
>> - Stardict (an offline dictionary which many language database could
>> be downloaded and added. If we run it then we choose and activating a
>> language, it can appear a pop-out translations of a word passed by
>> cursor over there). We can add the ar-en/en-ar or other language
>> database by default.
>>
>> - kgeography (an application for learn geography)
>>
>>
>> INTERNET
>> - liferea (gnome feed reader)
>> - axel (A light download accelerator - Console version)
>> - axel-kapt (front-end for axel)
>> - gwget / kget (download manager)
>> - webhttrack (website copier for offline browsing)
>> - moonlight (Free Silverlight web platform in Linux) (depend to
>> libmoon, moonlight-plugin-core, moonlight-plugin-mozilla)
>> - adblock Plus (firefox extension for filtering advertisement)
>> - apt-fast (script for accelerating apt download)
>> # see:
>> http://www.mattparnell.com/projects/apt-fast-and-axel-roughly-26x-faster-apt-get-installations-and-upgrades.html
>> - gFTP Client
>> - Skype (VOIP)
>> - Google Chrome (fast and secure browser)
>> - gwibber (microblogging client which support many service)
>>
>> SOUND (MULTIMEDIA)
>> - exaile (Exaile is an audio/media player aiming to be similar to
>> KDE's Amarok, but for
>> GTK+, and light)
>> - soundconverter (convert audio files into other formats)
>>
>> GRAPHIC
>> - agave (Color Pallet Designer)
>> - gcolor2 (color picker)
>> - gnome-specimen (Font Previewer)
>>
>> TERMINAL APPLICATIONS
>> - vim
>> - mc (midnight commander)
>> - rtorrent
>> - mocp (audio player)
>> - newsbeuter (feed reader)
>> - w3m and w3c-dtd-xhtml  (browser)
>> - elinks (browser)
>> - mutt (email client)
>> - irssi (IRC client)
>> - naim (chat client)
>> - Terminator (multiple gnome terminal in one window)
>>
>> NETWORKING
>> - gufw (simple front end for managing netfilter firewall), or
>> - Firestarter (complete firewall tool for linux desktop)
>> - ndisgtk (graphical frontend for ndiswrapper - installation of
>> Windows Wifi Drivers)
>> - giver (GUI easy quick file sharing)?
>> - iperf (Internet Protocol bandwidth measuring tool)
>> - bing (Empirical stochastic bandwidth tester)
>>
>> SAFETY AND HEALTHY
>>
>> - rsibreak (help to prevent repetitive strain/stress injury)
>> The rsibreak utility can be used to remind us to take a break now and
>> then. It will show us a random picture from a collection we can
>> configure ourself for a configurable duration at a configurable
>> interval.
>> Homepage: http://www.rsibreak.org
>> - xwrits (a lightweight app reminds us to take a break from typing,
>> xwrits helps us to prevent repetitive stress injury.)
>> xwrits is a small reminder program designed to let us know it is time
>> to take a break from typing to rest our wrists and prevent any damage
>> to our wrists (or at least make them feel better). Normally works on
>> the honor system, but if we find ourself unable to stop typing during
>> our break, it can also lock our keyboard.
>>
>> SECURITY
>> 11. keepassx (password manager)
>>
>> SYSTEM ADMINISTRATION
>> - Palimpsest Disk Utility
>> - Hardinfo (hardware inventory and benchmark)
>> - htop (system monitor in a terminal)
>> - conky (lightweight desktop system monitor)
>> - gtweakui (A collection of simple dialogs as a front end to GConf)
>>
>>
>> DESKTOP CONTROL AND ACCESSORIES
>> # We install these items, but don't activate it in
>> # startup-service if we want to save resource
>> # of memory.
>> - gnome-do (Quick actions control and launch apps on our desktop. Just
>> need a few keystroke on keyboard. Inspired by Quicksilver (for Mac)
>> and GNOME Launch Box)
>> - screenlets (desktop applet), or
>> - gdesklets (desktop applet)
>> - avant window navigator ? (like dock-bar in Mac)
>> - quick-lounge-applet (GNOME 2 Panel Applet to organize your preferred
>> applications,
>> With this applet you can organize your preferred applications in a
>> single place.)
>>
>>
>> ADD SOME BEATIFUL GTK+ THEMES and ICONS
>> - Mac4Lin project (a packet of themes, icons, and wallpaper)
>> # http://sourceforge.net/projects/mac4lin/
>>
>> These can be taken from gnomelook.org:
>> - divinorum (gtk theme)
>> #
>> http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Divinorum-Revisited?content=89200
>> - oxygen blend (gtk theme)
>> # http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Oxygen+Blend?content=114029
>> - raptor (gtk theme)
>> #
>> http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Raptor+%28Slickness+remix%29?content=86048
>> - charcoal (gtk theme)
>> #
>> http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Charcoal+%28SlicknesS+Remix%29?content=104623
>> - slickness black (gtk theme)
>> # http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Slickness+Black?content=73210
>> - my colorful slickness
>> #
>> http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/My+Colorful+Slickness?content=112426
>>
>>
>> For all of your efforts, I say Jazaakumullaahu khoyran.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> عبد المنعم كوكة
>> Abdelmonam Kouka
>> http://sabily-guru.blogspot.com/
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