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From: "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  Moreover, it's crucial that pexpect
> be available and work well -- I don't think it's available in native 
> Windows Python
> (but I could be wrong -- I just can't see how it would be possible).

I'm not sure about pexpect (other than in cygwin), but Expect is certainly 
available and
is included in the ActiveState tcl/tk Windows distribution.

> Anyway, if one uses SAGE via the notebook, then the interface is via a 
> standard
> windows program (e.g., Firefox)

That's another quirk - one has to use that ugly Linux-wise looking alien 
Firefox
instead of the nice and friendly IE7 :)

>, so in that case the problems you mentioned
> above don't apply.

That, certainly, doesn't apply for using SAGE. And it looks quite nice in 
Firefox.
I put a screenshot of it on my magic_square page,

http://mihailovs.com/Alec/Python/magic_square.html

That applies for developing in SAGE.

>  Also, if you use SAGE via the command line in Cygwin, the
> default is to use the standard windows command console... which sucks.

Well, it's not that bad in Windows XP and Vista, especially PowerShell.
The colors can be nicely adjusted, too, as well as the buffer size.

> However,
> if you install the "rxvt" Cygwin package and use it instead, it is very 
> nice
> (as long as you know that "shift click" is paste and hilight is copy).

I use rxvt (mostly as a toy) - but just because of the necessity to use 
something.
It's usable for small things, but for larger projects, especially involving 
debugging, one
needs a serious IDE.

> The SAGE notebook under windows via Cygwin is way too sluggish still (at 
> least
> startup times are), and we hope to speed it up.

I don't use it that much. It seems to be working better in cygwin than it 
did in
colinux though. After using Maple for a long time, I automatically use Enter
and Shift+Enter in the opposite way that Mathematica does.  It's not that
easy to adjust to that :)

Alec 



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