I apologize for cross posting and for the extended Cc list but I wish
to correct an error I made in a previous comment in this thread.

On 8/5/07, I wrote:
>
> On 8/4/07 David Joyner wrote:
> ...
> > Also, I remember you pushing for the Aldor/Axiom, saying that Aldor would
> > be the next generation SPAD for Axiom.
>
> That is a statement about the past. Aldor was designed specifically to
> be the next generation of SPAD for Axiom. It was only when Axiom was
> made open source that for some reason Aldor was not included.
>
> I suspect (but do not know for sure) that the reason Aldor was excluded
> is because Tim Daly - the person negoiating with NAG for open sourcing
> Axiom - was not interested in Aldor.

In an email off-list referring to my suspicion stated in the above
sentence, Tim Daly told me that: "This statement is clearly false."
and asked that I stop posting statements that imply
that he is somehow at fault without checking the facts with him first.
I think that is a reasonable request and I regret that I made such a
rash comment without thinking about it first. After reviewing all of
the comments I could find in the axiom-devel email list archives, I
could not find any evidence to support my suspicion.

> Tim has said publicly that he was
> fundamentally against the decision to implement Aldor that way it was
> implemented at IBM. Tim wanted to implement the 2nd generation Spad in
> Lisp, but Stephen Watt chose to implement it in C and provided a stand
> alone C runtime environment in addition to the abililty to general
> Lisp code for interfacing with Axiom.

This statement, while presumably correct (but again I admit that I did
not actually check with Tim that this accurately reflects his current
view), is not proper grounds for my previously stated suspicion. So
the reasons why Aldor was not included in the open source release of
Axiom must be of a different nature.

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One factor may have just been a matter of timing. The Aldor component
of the commercial version of Axiom was actually publicly released
*before* the rest of Axiom and under a different (not open source)
license when aldor.org was created.  It is only now that aldor.org and
NAG have agreed on a more open license (APL2). However because of the
non-commerical use clause the new license is still not completely
compatible with Axiom's license so it is currently not possible to
combine them both into a single GPL compatible release.

But as I understand it (which might be incorrect), it would be
possible to release the Axiom+Aldor combination under APL2 since
Axiom's modified BSD license is technically compatible with both GPL
and APL2. However I am not sure whether there is anyone currently
interested and willing to do this.

> ...

Regards,
Bill Page.

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