On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 8:07 AM Frédéric Chapoton <fchapot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> -1, agreed with Nathan Dunfield
>
> Le mardi 20 octobre 2020 à 06:12:39 UTC+2, Nathan Dunfield a écrit :
>>
>> -1: I don't really care what RealField.__repr__ returns, but cast a token no 
>> vote to object to the logical next move of breaking backwards compatibility 
>> by changing the meaning of RealField and/or RR.  I see the need for a 
>> "genuine real field", but it seems a lot simpler just to call it something 
>> other than "RealField" and so not break a lot of existing users' Sage code.

one cannot stop the progress by voting :-)
Well, seriously speaking, such drastic changes are needed sometimes,
and they demand a bump in the major version number, e.g. they can
happen in Sage 10.0.

It takes a lot of effort for a newcomer to get that RR and CC are
basically RDF and CDF on steroids, to get the mysteries of AA, etc
etc.

>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Nathan
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 14, 2020 at 1:28:08 AM UTC-5 vdelecroix wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> I would like to discuss the patchbomb at
>>>
>>> https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/24523
>>>
>>> The ticket hopes to change the string representation from
>>> "Real Field with XX bits of precision" to "Real Floating-point
>>> field with XX bits of precision".
>>>
>>> Rationale: it was quite unfortunate from the beginning that
>>> RealField and ComplexField mean "floating-point arithmetic".
>>> On the one hand, one would like to be able to work with the
>>> (abstract) Parent modeling the real numbers (eg for coercions).
>>> On the other hand, in the setting of computer algebra it is
>>> very often much better to work with interval arithmetic or
>>> balls rather than floating-point. The ticket is a small
>>> step towards getting the genuine "RealField" standing for
>>> the set of real numbers. See
>>>
>>> https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/17713
>>>
>>> I think this deserves an agreement from other developers! Any
>>> comment very welcome.
>>>
>>> Best
>>> Vincent
>>>
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