PS. as far as current funding for the sagemath (itself  - sagemath's
dependencies are another story, some enjoy support by NumFocus, DFG, CZI,
etc etc, some are doing well in this sense, e.g. Jupyter, R, some have
nothing, some are orphaned/taken over by sagemath) project goes, very
minimal funding (in form of web hosting support) is provided by CoCalc
-which is a US LLC, and small donations (tens of euro p.m.) are made by a
dozen private persons via github sponsorship and opencollective
sponsorship. We are thankful to them, and they don't tell us what to do in
any way.

HTH
Dima



On Fri, 20 Nov 2020, 17:29 Dima Pasechnik, <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Doris,
>
> CoCalc is not something we have any control over here. I cc this to CoCalc
> webmaster, in case.
>
> sagemath.org itself does not store any personal data (as far as I know -
> it ought to be double-checked though) and thus does not have to worry about
> GDPR (I am not a lawyer, though).
>
> HTH
> Dima
>
> On Fri, 20 Nov 2020, 15:52 'Doris Behrendt' via sage-devel, <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> since I’m not one of the >>old boys<< in sagemath, I read some background
>> when this mailthread began.
>> Then I went to CoCalc and searched for something like >>imprint<< oder
>> >>legal notice<<, since I live in the EU and wanted to know If I could
>> recommend using this with students. I found NOTHING by direct search. Or
>> more exactly, different contradicting information, like being based in
>> Delaware and at the same time in Seattle.
>>
>> So, also with no offence of course, I must say that I find this at least
>> problematic and intransparent and that it leaves me with open questions.
>>
>> Then, I also had a look at the sagemath page, and no imprint there also …
>> at least some info about how the project is financed is there, but some
>> GDPR stuff would perhaps be a good idea. And in the context of transparency
>> it would also be good to know who is giving money to the project. Think of
>> Chinese (nothing against Chinese Companys! I don’t care who of the 2, the
>> Chinese or the NSA, or somebody else, try spying after me) companys
>> financing chairs at US universities etc., but, to be honest, I didn’t look
>> if this information was available, I had no time. Does anyone of you know?
>>
>> And I agree that the icons should be unique and clear.
>>
>> Doris
>>
>>
>>
>> > On 20. Nov 2020, at 00:33, 'Travis Scrimshaw' via sage-devel <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > First, let me acknowledge my respect and admiration to William for his
>> contributions both to Sage and for having such a great service such as
>> CoCalc. However, I must also disagree with having this being linked with
>> the Sage logo as these are separate entities both in their mission and
>> content. I agree with Dima that it should be with the CoCalc icon and
>> SageMathCell should also get a similar sized icon. We will then have a
>> prime number of icons, and a little more care will be needed for their
>> layout. However, that is a minor issue IMO.
>> >
>> > Best,
>> > Travis
>> >
>> >
>> > On Monday, November 16, 2020 at 8:22:00 PM UTC+10 [email protected]
>> wrote:
>> > On Sun, Nov 15, 2020 at 1:41 PM Frédéric Chapoton <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> > > If you look at https://www.sagemath.org/
>> > > you can see four links to cocalc, one of them hidden behind the icon
>> "sage".
>> > This icon should be replaced by CoCalc's icon:
>> > https://cocalc.com/img/cocalc-icon.svg
>> > And a SageMathCell getting a similarly sized icon.
>> > Or perhaps making this icon a link to SageCell, and placing CoCalc
>> > icon next to it.
>> >
>> >
>> > >
>> > > So, taking great care to acknowledge first all that William did and
>> the fact that Harald is currently maintaining the website, should we just
>> accept this without any kind of discussion ?
>> > >
>> > > Maybe cocalc could become one of our sponsors, as a display of
>> explicit and permanent friendship ?
>> > >
>> > > Frédéric
>> > >
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