On Friday, June 16, 2023 at 10:18:57 AM UTC+9 Matthias Koeppe wrote:
On Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 6:03:41 PM UTC-7 Travis Scrimshaw wrote: Perhaps this is the core question (for me): What do you expect most/casual users to download and install? It may be the wrong question because it seems to assume there is one population of such users. This is an important question because it determines a lot about how we package and present the software. If we expect users to be technically savvy and tacitly understand they can ignore "# module - sage.*" doctests, then we can just go ahead and plaster them everywhere. If we expect people to peck at their keyboards with two fingers and copy/paste examples, then we should make sure the doc is very clean. The population of current Sage users and developers can continue to install the monolithic Sage. Or, in the modularized terminology, they install the distribution "sagemath-standard". What is going to be "Sage" then? What is my product to tell people about at a SageDays? But the point why I have been working so intensely on the modularization project is to open parts of Sage to new populations of users and developers who are at home in the Python world. In particular those who find that they cannot use the monolithic Sage for their needs and therefore go looking for other projects that do not impose such constraints. As William said, it could be a magnitude more, but it easily could be 0. Yes Sage is a lot to download (although if we cut out the documentation and continue to use system packages, I think we cut this down immensely), but Sage just exists in its own Python (plus some other stuff) bubble. I have some doubts that this will move the needle much at the cost of putting up development barriers, or at least increasing the learning curve, for non-expert-programmer-mathematicians (I might even put myself in this category). Best, Travis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/deeb3419-4aae-457a-b65c-377b553fd5a3n%40googlegroups.com.
