Thanks for the tip, but it is not enough to me. I get: /usr/bin/python3.13: 
No module named pip

El sábado, 6 de diciembre de 2025 a las 16:56:27 UTC+1, 
[email protected] escribió:

> I might had to use python3.13 -m pip install --upgrade pip setuptools 
> I don't remember more than that.
>
>
>
> On Friday, 5 December 2025 at 19:29:06 UTC+1 [email protected] wrote:
>
>> Hi Domingo, 
>> we wonder what exactly you did to install on Fedora 43 with Python 
>> 3.13. Cause we have problems. 
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 5, 2025 at 11:41 AM Domingo Gómez 
>> <[email protected]> wrote: 
>> > 
>> > Dear all, 
>> > 
>> > I wanted to thank you all of you, sage is working. Thanks Dima and 
>> Volker for your help. 
>> > 
>> > On Wednesday, 3 December 2025 at 19:42:49 UTC+1 Volker Braun wrote: 
>> >> 
>> >> sage-10.8.beta9 builds on Fedora 43 for me, fwiw 
>> >> 
>> >> On Wednesday, December 3, 2025 at 7:33:23 PM UTC+1 Dima Pasechnik 
>> wrote: 
>> >>> 
>> >>> The easiest fix for this would be 
>> >>> 
>> >>> sudo dnf install python3.13-devel python3.13 
>> >>> 
>> >>> and then, after removing 
>> >>> 
>> >>> /home/gomezd/Git_Repositories/sage-10.8.beta9/sagealpha/bin/ 
>> >>> /home/linuxbrew/.linuxbrew/bin/ 
>> >>> 
>> >>> from your PATH 
>> >>> 
>> >>> run 
>> >>> 
>> >>> ./configure --with-python=python3.13 && make 
>> >>> 
>> >>> HTH 
>> >>> Dima 
>> >>> 
>> >>> On Wed, Dec 3, 2025 at 11:22 AM Domingo Gómez 
>> >>> <[email protected]> wrote: 
>> >>> > 
>> >>> > Thank you for your response. 
>> >>> > If Linuxbrew is not supported, then I will build it with the 
>> packages from Fedora. 
>> >>> > I trying the same, but not the error is different. 
>> >>> > 
>> >>> > make[2]: se entra en el directorio 
>> '/home/gomezd/Git_Repositories/sage-10.8.beta9/build/make' 
>> >>> > make --no-print-directory 
>> /home/gomezd/Git_Repositories/sage-10.8.beta9/local/var/lib/sage/installed/.dummy
>>  
>>
>> >>> > make[3]: 
>> '/home/gomezd/Git_Repositories/sage-10.8.beta9/local/var/lib/sage/installed/.dummy'
>>  
>> está actualizado. 
>> >>> > make --no-print-directory 
>> /home/gomezd/Git_Repositories/sage-10.8.beta9/local/var/lib/sage/installed/.dummy
>>  
>>
>> >>> > make[3]: 
>> '/home/gomezd/Git_Repositories/sage-10.8.beta9/local/var/lib/sage/installed/.dummy'
>>  
>> está actualizado. 
>> >>> > make --no-print-directory 
>> /home/gomezd/Git_Repositories/sage-10.8.beta9/local/var/lib/sage/installed/.dummy
>>  
>>
>> >>> > make[3]: 
>> '/home/gomezd/Git_Repositories/sage-10.8.beta9/local/var/lib/sage/installed/.dummy'
>>  
>> está actualizado. 
>> >>> > make --no-print-directory all-sage-docs all-sage 
>> >>> > make --no-print-directory pip-SAGE_VENV-no-deps 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] ERROR [hashlib|<module>:248]: code for hash md5 was not 
>> found. 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] Traceback (most recent call last): 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] File 
>> "/home/gomezd/Git_Repositories/sage-10.8.beta9/local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.12.5/lib/python3.12/hashlib.py",
>>  
>> line 245, in <module> 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] globals()[__func_name] = __get_hash(__func_name) 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] File 
>> "/home/gomezd/Git_Repositories/sage-10.8.beta9/local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.12.5/lib/python3.12/hashlib.py",
>>  
>> line 123, in __get_builtin_constructor 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] raise ValueError('unsupported hash type ' + name) 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] ValueError: unsupported hash type md5 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] ERROR [hashlib|<module>:248]: code for hash sha1 was not 
>> found. 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] Traceback (most recent call last): 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] File 
>> "/home/gomezd/Git_Repositories/sage-10.8.beta9/local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.12.5/lib/python3.12/hashlib.py",
>>  
>> line 245, in <module> 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] globals()[__func_name] = __get_hash(__func_name) 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] File 
>> "/home/gomezd/Git_Repositories/sage-10.8.beta9/local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.12.5/lib/python3.12/hashlib.py",
>>  
>> line 123, in __get_builtin_constructor 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] raise ValueError('unsupported hash type ' + name) 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] ValueError: unsupported hash type sha1 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] ERROR [hashlib|<module>:248]: code for hash sha224 was 
>> not found. 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] Traceback (most recent call last): 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] File 
>> "/home/gomezd/Git_Repositories/sage-10.8.beta9/local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.12.5/lib/python3.12/hashlib.py",
>>  
>> line 245, in <module> 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] globals()[__func_name] = __get_hash(__func_name) 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] File 
>> "/home/gomezd/Git_Repositories/sage-10.8.beta9/local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.12.5/lib/python3.12/hashlib.py",
>>  
>> line 123, in __get_builtin_constructor 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] raise ValueError('unsupported hash type ' + name) 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] ValueError: unsupported hash type sha224 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] ERROR [hashlib|<module>:248]: code for hash sha256 was 
>> not found. 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] Traceback (most recent call last): 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] File 
>> "/home/gomezd/Git_Repositories/sage-10.8.beta9/local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.12.5/lib/python3.12/hashlib.py",
>>  
>> line 245, in <module> 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] globals()[__func_name] = __get_hash(__func_name) 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] File 
>> "/home/gomezd/Git_Repositories/sage-10.8.beta9/local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.12.5/lib/python3.12/hashlib.py",
>>  
>> line 123, in __get_builtin_constructor 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] raise ValueError('unsupported hash type ' + name) 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] ValueError: unsupported hash type sha256 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] ERROR [hashlib|<module>:248]: code for hash sha384 was 
>> not found. 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] Traceback (most recent call last): 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] File 
>> "/home/gomezd/Git_Repositories/sage-10.8.beta9/local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.12.5/lib/python3.12/hashlib.py",
>>  
>> line 245, in <module> 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] globals()[__func_name] = __get_hash(__func_name) 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] File 
>> "/home/gomezd/Git_Repositories/sage-10.8.beta9/local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.12.5/lib/python3.12/hashlib.py",
>>  
>> line 123, in __get_builtin_constructor 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] raise ValueError('unsupported hash type ' + name) 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] ValueError: unsupported hash type sha384 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] ERROR [hashlib|<module>:248]: code for hash sha512 was 
>> not found. 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] Traceback (most recent call last): 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] File 
>> "/home/gomezd/Git_Repositories/sage-10.8.beta9/local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.12.5/lib/python3.12/hashlib.py",
>>  
>> line 245, in <module> 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] globals()[__func_name] = __get_hash(__func_name) 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] File 
>> "/home/gomezd/Git_Repositories/sage-10.8.beta9/local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.12.5/lib/python3.12/hashlib.py",
>>  
>> line 123, in __get_builtin_constructor 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] raise ValueError('unsupported hash type ' + name) 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] ValueError: unsupported hash type sha512 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] ERROR [hashlib|<module>:248]: code for hash blake2b was 
>> not found. 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] Traceback (most recent call last): 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] File 
>> "/home/gomezd/Git_Repositories/sage-10.8.beta9/local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.12.5/lib/python3.12/hashlib.py",
>>  
>> line 245, in <module> 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] globals()[__func_name] = __get_hash(__func_name) 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] File 
>> "/home/gomezd/Git_Repositories/sage-10.8.beta9/local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.12.5/lib/python3.12/hashlib.py",
>>  
>> line 123, in __get_builtin_constructor 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] raise ValueError('unsupported hash type ' + name) 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] ValueError: unsupported hash type blake2b 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] ERROR [hashlib|<module>:248]: code for hash blake2s was 
>> not found. 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] Traceback (most recent call last): 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] File 
>> "/home/gomezd/Git_Repositories/sage-10.8.beta9/local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.12.5/lib/python3.12/hashlib.py",
>>  
>> line 245, in <module> 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] globals()[__func_name] = __get_hash(__func_name) 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] File 
>> "/home/gomezd/Git_Repositories/sage-10.8.beta9/local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.12.5/lib/python3.12/hashlib.py",
>>  
>> line 123, in __get_builtin_constructor 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] raise ValueError('unsupported hash type ' + name) 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] ValueError: unsupported hash type blake2s 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] ERROR [hashlib|<module>:248]: code for hash sha3_224 was 
>> not found. 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] Traceback (most recent call last): 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] File 
>> "/home/gomezd/Git_Repositories/sage-10.8.beta9/local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.12.5/lib/python3.12/hashlib.py",
>>  
>> line 245, in <module> 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] globals()[__func_name] = __get_hash(__func_name) 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] File 
>> "/home/gomezd/Git_Repositories/sage-10.8.beta9/local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.12.5/lib/python3.12/hashlib.py",
>>  
>> line 123, in __get_builtin_constructor 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] raise ValueError('unsupported hash type ' + name) 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] ValueError: unsupported hash type sha3_224 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] ERROR [hashlib|<module>:248]: code for hash sha3_256 was 
>> not found. 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] Traceback (most recent call last): 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] File 
>> "/home/gomezd/Git_Repositories/sage-10.8.beta9/local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.12.5/lib/python3.12/hashlib.py",
>>  
>> line 245, in <module> 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] globals()[__func_name] = __get_hash(__func_name) 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] File 
>> "/home/gomezd/Git_Repositories/sage-10.8.beta9/local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.12.5/lib/python3.12/hashlib.py",
>>  
>> line 123, in __get_builtin_constructor 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] raise ValueError('unsupported hash type ' + name) 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] ValueError: unsupported hash type sha3_256 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] ERROR [hashlib|<module>:248]: code for hash sha3_384 was 
>> not found. 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] Traceback (most recent call last): 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] File 
>> "/home/gomezd/Git_Repositories/sage-10.8.beta9/local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.12.5/lib/python3.12/hashlib.py",
>>  
>> line 245, in <module> 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] globals()[__func_name] = __get_hash(__func_name) 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] File 
>> "/home/gomezd/Git_Repositories/sage-10.8.beta9/local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.12.5/lib/python3.12/hashlib.py",
>>  
>> line 123, in __get_builtin_constructor 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] raise ValueError('unsupported hash type ' + name) 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] ValueError: unsupported hash type sha3_384 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] ERROR [hashlib|<module>:248]: code for hash sha3_512 was 
>> not found. 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] Traceback (most recent call last): 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] File 
>> "/home/gomezd/Git_Repositories/sage-10.8.beta9/local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.12.5/lib/python3.12/hashlib.py",
>>  
>> line 245, in <module> 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] globals()[__func_name] = __get_hash(__func_name) 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] File 
>> "/home/gomezd/Git_Repositories/sage-10.8.beta9/local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.12.5/lib/python3.12/hashlib.py",
>>  
>> line 123, in __get_builtin_constructor 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] raise ValueError('unsupported hash type ' + name) 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] ValueError: unsupported hash type sha3_512 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] ERROR [hashlib|<module>:248]: code for hash shake_128 
>> was not found. 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] Traceback (most recent call last): 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] File 
>> "/home/gomezd/Git_Repositories/sage-10.8.beta9/local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.12.5/lib/python3.12/hashlib.py",
>>  
>> line 245, in <module> 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] globals()[__func_name] = __get_hash(__func_name) 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] File 
>> "/home/gomezd/Git_Repositories/sage-10.8.beta9/local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.12.5/lib/python3.12/hashlib.py",
>>  
>> line 123, in __get_builtin_constructor 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] raise ValueError('unsupported hash type ' + name) 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] ValueError: unsupported hash type shake_128 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] ERROR [hashlib|<module>:248]: code for hash shake_256 
>> was not found. 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] Traceback (most recent call last): 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] File 
>> "/home/gomezd/Git_Repositories/sage-10.8.beta9/local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.12.5/lib/python3.12/hashlib.py",
>>  
>> line 245, in <module> 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] globals()[__func_name] = __get_hash(__func_name) 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] File 
>> "/home/gomezd/Git_Repositories/sage-10.8.beta9/local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.12.5/lib/python3.12/hashlib.py",
>>  
>> line 123, in __get_builtin_constructor 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] raise ValueError('unsupported hash type ' + name) 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] ValueError: unsupported hash type shake_256 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] Traceback (most recent call last): 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] File 
>> "/home/gomezd/Git_Repositories/sage-10.8.beta9/local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.12.5/lib/python3.12/random.py",
>>  
>> line 68, in <module> 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] from _sha2 import sha512 as _sha512 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] ModuleNotFoundError: No module named '_sha2' 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] During handling of the above exception, another 
>> exception occurred: 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] Traceback (most recent call last): 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] File 
>> "/home/gomezd/Git_Repositories/sage-10.8.beta9/build/bin/sage-package", 
>> line 38, in <module> 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] from sage_bootstrap.cmdline import run 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] File 
>> "/home/gomezd/Git_Repositories/sage-10.8.beta9/build/bin/../sage_bootstrap/cmdline.py",
>>  
>> line 33, in <module> 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] from sage_bootstrap.app import Application 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] File 
>> "/home/gomezd/Git_Repositories/sage-10.8.beta9/build/bin/../sage_bootstrap/app.py",
>>  
>> line 34, in <module> 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] from sage_bootstrap.tarball import Tarball, 
>> FileNotMirroredError 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] File 
>> "/home/gomezd/Git_Repositories/sage-10.8.beta9/build/bin/../sage_bootstrap/tarball.py",
>>  
>> line 23, in <module> 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] from sage_bootstrap.download import Download, MirrorList 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] File 
>> "/home/gomezd/Git_Repositories/sage-10.8.beta9/build/bin/../sage_bootstrap/download/__init__.py",
>>  
>> line 7, in <module> 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] from sage_bootstrap.download.transfer import Download 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] File 
>> "/home/gomezd/Git_Repositories/sage-10.8.beta9/build/bin/../sage_bootstrap/download/transfer.py",
>>  
>> line 24, in <module> 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] from urllib.request import build_opener, install_opener, 
>> urlretrieve 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] File 
>> "/home/gomezd/Git_Repositories/sage-10.8.beta9/local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.12.5/lib/python3.12/urllib/request.py",
>>  
>> line 88, in <module> 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] import http.client 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] File 
>> "/home/gomezd/Git_Repositories/sage-10.8.beta9/local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.12.5/lib/python3.12/http/client.py",
>>  
>> line 71, in <module> 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] import email.parser 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] File 
>> "/home/gomezd/Git_Repositories/sage-10.8.beta9/local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.12.5/lib/python3.12/email/parser.py",
>>  
>> line 12, in <module> 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] from email.feedparser import FeedParser, BytesFeedParser 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] File 
>> "/home/gomezd/Git_Repositories/sage-10.8.beta9/local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.12.5/lib/python3.12/email/feedparser.py",
>>  
>> line 27, in <module> 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] from email._policybase import compat32 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] File 
>> "/home/gomezd/Git_Repositories/sage-10.8.beta9/local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.12.5/lib/python3.12/email/_policybase.py",
>>  
>> line 9, in <module> 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] from email.utils import _has_surrogates 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] File 
>> "/home/gomezd/Git_Repositories/sage-10.8.beta9/local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.12.5/lib/python3.12/email/utils.py",
>>  
>> line 28, in <module> 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] import random 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] File 
>> "/home/gomezd/Git_Repositories/sage-10.8.beta9/local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.12.5/lib/python3.12/random.py",
>>  
>> line 71, in <module> 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] from hashlib import sha512 as _sha512 
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] ImportError: cannot import name 'sha512' from 'hashlib' 
>> (/home/gomezd/Git_Repositories/sage-10.8.beta9/local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.12.5/lib/python3.12/hashlib.py)
>>  
>>
>> >>> > [pip-24.2] Error: Selecting a different version of a package is no 
>> longer supported 
>> >>> > make[4]: *** [Makefile:3335: pip-SAGE_VENV-no-deps] Error 1 
>> >>> > make[3]: *** [Makefile:3335: 
>> /home/gomezd/Git_Repositories/sage-10.8.beta9/local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.12.5/var/lib/sage/installed/pip-24.2]
>>  
>> Error 2 
>> >>> > make[2]: *** [Makefile:2967: all-start] Error 2 
>> >>> > make[2]: se sale del directorio 
>> '/home/gomezd/Git_Repositories/sage-10.8.beta9/build/make' 
>> >>> > 
>> >>> > On Tuesday, 2 December 2025 at 17:12:56 UTC+1 [email protected] 
>> wrote: 
>> >>> >> 
>> >>> >> On Tue, Dec 2, 2025 at 8:43 AM Domingo Gómez 
>> >>> >> <[email protected]> wrote: 
>> >>> >> 
>> >>> >> > I am having trouble building SageMath 10.7 from source. My 
>> system is Fedora 43, fully updated and I am trying to build Sage in a 
>> virtual environment with python3.11. 
>> >>> >> > 
>> >>> >> > I installed gcc-12 with Homebrew and installed several libraries 
>> on my system. I am attaching my config.log and ppl-1.2.p1.log. The ppl 
>> library was installed through Homebrew. 
>> >>> >> 
>> >>> >> We don't support Linuxbrew, so you are on your own here. 
>> >>> >> Fedora 43 does have up to date ppl-devel package, so it might be 
>> easier to use. 
>> >>> >> Our latest betas support gcc 15, and the easiest way to build Sage 
>> on Fedora 43 
>> >>> >> would be to go with 
>> >>> >> 
>> https://github.com/sagemath/sage/archive/refs/tags/10.8.beta9.tar.gz 
>> >>> >> 
>> >>> >> HTH 
>> >>> >> Dima 
>> >>> >> 
>> >>> >> > 
>> >>> >> > Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. 
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