On Wed, Dec 31, 2025 at 4:48 PM Grégory Vanuxem <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Not related. GAP has a lot of work to be done. Particularly in the Julia GC 
> world. It's a pity, they are not usable for example using libjulia. 
> Inconsistent things I think. Oscar for example is not usable because of GAP 
> through libjulia.

Oscar doesn't really rely on GAP as a backend, as far as I know.
Thus saying "Oscar is unusable because of GAP ..." doesn't make sent
to me. Anyway,
unless you run Oscar on a platform on which it's not really tested
(Windows, of Oscar from GAP),
it's hard to understand what you mean.
Oscar works just fine on Linux and macOS, is well-supported and being
worked on a lot.
(while GAP is mostly in maintainance mode as far as its core
functionalities are concerned)
Few times I needed to run Oscar, it all went very well.

Dima

>
> Bad usage
>
> Le mer. 31 déc. 2025, 22:34, Marc Culler <[email protected]> a écrit :
>>
>> I am building an AppImage for Sage 10.8.  I have successfully built Sage 
>> 10.8 on my manylinux docker image and I can run it on my Ubuntu 24.04 
>> system.  But I have run into issues with libgap, and possibly other parts of 
>> sage.
>>
>> First, I cannot build the documentation because segfaults occur during the 
>> doc build.  Actually there are several, many of which occur during 
>> sphinxplot.  But I was able to track down at least one segfault in 
>> gap/element.cpython-313-x86_64-linux-gnu.so.  Based on disassembly, it seems 
>> to happen in make_gap_list.
>>
>> I then tried running some example code from libgap, and I get weird errors.  
>> For example:
>> libgap(vector((1/3, 0.8, 3)))
>> produces:
>> GAPError: Error, Variable: <<unknown>> must have an assigned value
>>
>> On my 10.7 AppImage, which was built on the same docker image, the result of 
>> that command is, as expected:
>> [ 0.333333, 0.8, 3. ]
>>
>> For another example, the command:
>> libgap.AlternatingGroup(4)
>> produces
>> GAPError: Error, no method found! Error, no 1st choice method found for 
>> `AlternatingGroupCons' on 2 arguments
>>
>> Again, that works fine on the 10.7 Appimage, producing the expected result:
>> Alt( [ 1 .. 4 ] )
>>
>> And, to add one more, the command:
>> sage: libgap.eval('5/3 + 7*E(3)').sage()
>> produces:
>> GAPError: Error, CoeffsCyc: function is not yet defined
>> while the following command seems to work:
>> libgap.eval('5/3 + 7*E(3)')
>> 16/3*E(3)-5/3*E(3)^2
>>
>> Does anyone know anything which might give a hint about what is going on 
>> here?
>>
>> - Marc
>>
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