Also, I just got bit by the hidden magic cython recompiling everything (and I don't know what I did to cause it either). Thankfully my computer is powerful and fast, it only took 10 minutes to do whatever it needed to do (which I don't know because I didn't enable the meson verbose on this computer).
Python files are okay since they are basically instantaneous, but Cython files are a different beast. IMO the proper thing to do would be to revert this feature (to what is effectively the status quo) and **first** have a proper discussion about whether we want it or not. Travis On Thursday, February 5, 2026 at 11:39:43 AM UTC+9 Travis Scrimshaw wrote: > Okay, thanks. That helped a lot and made it so I could fix my compile-time > issues. > > That said, there is absolutely *no* way anybody except a sage build system > expert could have found and known to do that. Also, I had no idea I should > even look at meson/ninja logs for cython errors (much less where they would > be located) either. > > We need proper displaying of error messages when builds fail. The generic > slop I posted is completely unhelpful (thankfully, I knew it was a Cython > compile issue because of what I was changing, but imagine if I didn't; > e.g., a bad branch merge). There is a balance to be had, but we need more > general verbosity in starting Sage when its running (potentially time > consuming) build steps. > > Unfortunately I don't even have enough time to do the code I really need > to do (even more so for should), nor do I have the expertise to help with > the build system stuff. > > > On Thursday, February 5, 2026 at 1:20:54 AM UTC+9 [email protected] wrote: > > On February 4, 2026 8:57:21 AM CST, "'[email protected]' via sage-devel" < > [email protected]> wrote: > > On Wednesday, February 4, 2026 at 3:09:10 PM UTC+1 [email protected] > wrote: > > 2b) Revert "sage -b" to actually just rebuilding the parts of Sage that > should be rebuilt/recompiled; meson is not part of this AFAIK. > > after https://github.com/sagemath/sage/pull/41174 > "sage -b" does > > ninja -C $SAGE_ROOT/build/sage-distro > > (you can also run this explictly) > > Tobias says it's not 100% fool-proof from meson point of view, but it's > certainly fast and should very quickly rebuild > what's needed. > > > That's good to hear at least. > > Best, > Travis > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/ebf355f3-7713-4e01-a773-0cfd6c63eedan%40googlegroups.com.
