yes i did uninstall and reinstall the package with same problem and how
could i be using an out of date package i used the same thing as you wrote
(sage-dev) >>> sage [develop] pip install mathics3
Collecting mathics3
Using cached mathics3-9.0.0-py3-none-any.whl.metadata (4.6 kB)
Collecting Mathics-Scanner>1.4.1 (from mathics3)
Using cached mathics_scanner-2.0.0-py3-none-any.whl.metadata (5.0 kB)
Requirement already satisfied: mpmath>=1.2.0 in
/home/rashad/.conda/envs/sage-dev/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from
mathics3) (1.3.0)
Requirement already satisfied: numpy in
/home/rashad/.conda/envs/sage-dev/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from
mathics3) (2.3.5)
Collecting palettable (from mathics3)
Using cached palettable-3.3.3-py2.py3-none-any.whl.metadata (3.3 kB)
Requirement already satisfied: pillow>=9.2 in
/home/rashad/.conda/envs/sage-dev/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from
mathics3) (12.0.0)
Collecting pint (from mathics3)
Using cached pint-0.25.2-py3-none-any.whl.metadata (10 kB)
Requirement already satisfied: python-dateutil in
/home/rashad/.conda/envs/sage-dev/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from
mathics3) (2.9.0.post0)
Collecting Pympler (from mathics3)
Using cached Pympler-1.1-py3-none-any.whl.metadata (3.6 kB)
Requirement already satisfied: requests in
/home/rashad/.conda/envs/sage-dev/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from
mathics3) (2.32.5)
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/home/rashad/.conda/envs/sage-dev/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from
mathics3) (1.16.3)
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/home/rashad/.conda/envs/sage-dev/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from
mathics3) (80.9.0)
Collecting stopit (from mathics3)
Using cached stopit-1.1.2-py3-none-any.whl
Collecting sympy<1.14,>=1.13 (from mathics3)
Using cached sympy-1.13.3-py3-none-any.whl.metadata (12 kB)
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/home/rashad/.conda/envs/sage-dev/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from
Mathics-Scanner>1.4.1->mathics3) (6.0.3)
Collecting chardet (from Mathics-Scanner>1.4.1->mathics3)
Using cached
chardet-7.1.0-cp312-cp312-manylinux2014_x86_64.manylinux_2_17_x86_64.manylinux_2_28_x86_64.whl.metadata
(7.0 kB)
Requirement already satisfied: click in
/home/rashad/.conda/envs/sage-dev/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from
Mathics-Scanner>1.4.1->mathics3) (8.1.8)
Collecting flexcache>=0.3 (from pint->mathics3)
Using cached flexcache-0.3-py3-none-any.whl.metadata (7.0 kB)
Collecting flexparser>=0.4 (from pint->mathics3)
Using cached flexparser-0.4-py3-none-any.whl.metadata (18 kB)
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Using cached mathics3-9.0.0-py3-none-any.whl (3.4 MB)
Using cached sympy-1.13.3-py3-none-any.whl (6.2 MB)
Using cached mathics_scanner-2.0.0-py3-none-any.whl (168 kB)
Using cached
chardet-7.1.0-cp312-cp312-manylinux2014_x86_64.manylinux_2_17_x86_64.manylinux_2_28_x86_64.whl
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Using cached palettable-3.3.3-py2.py3-none-any.whl (332 kB)
Using cached pint-0.25.2-py3-none-any.whl (306 kB)
Using cached flexcache-0.3-py3-none-any.whl (13 kB)
Using cached flexparser-0.4-py3-none-any.whl (27 kB)
Using cached Pympler-1.1-py3-none-any.whl (165 kB)
Installing collected packages: stopit, sympy, Pympler, palettable,
flexparser, flexcache, chardet, pint, Mathics-Scanner, mathics3
Attempting uninstall: sympy
Found existing installation: sympy 1.14.0
Uninstalling sympy-1.14.0:
Successfully uninstalled sympy-1.14.0
Successfully installed Mathics-Scanner-2.0.0 Pympler-1.1 chardet-7.1.0
flexcache-0.3 flexparser-0.4 mathics3-9.0.0 palettable-3.3.3 pint-0.25.2
stopit-1.1.2 sympy-1.13.3
(sage-dev) >>> sage [develop] pip uninstall mathics3 mathics-scanner -y
Found existing installation: Mathics3 9.0.0
Uninstalling Mathics3-9.0.0:
Successfully uninstalled Mathics3-9.0.0
Found existing installation: Mathics_Scanner 2.0.0
Uninstalling Mathics_Scanner-2.0.0:
Successfully uninstalled Mathics_Scanner-2.0.0
(sage-dev) >>> sage [develop] pip install mathics3
Collecting mathics3
Using cached mathics3-9.0.0-py3-none-any.whl.metadata (4.6 kB)
Collecting Mathics-Scanner>1.4.1 (from mathics3)
Using cached mathics_scanner-2.0.0-py3-none-any.whl.metadata (5.0 kB)
Requirement already satisfied: mpmath>=1.2.0 in
/home/rashad/.conda/envs/sage-dev/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from
mathics3) (1.3.0)
Requirement already satisfied: numpy in
/home/rashad/.conda/envs/sage-dev/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from
mathics3) (2.3.5)
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/home/rashad/.conda/envs/sage-dev/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from
mathics3) (3.3.3)
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/home/rashad/.conda/envs/sage-dev/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from
mathics3) (12.0.0)
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/home/rashad/.conda/envs/sage-dev/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from
mathics3) (0.25.2)
Requirement already satisfied: python-dateutil in
/home/rashad/.conda/envs/sage-dev/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from
mathics3) (2.9.0.post0)
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/home/rashad/.conda/envs/sage-dev/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from
mathics3) (1.1)
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/home/rashad/.conda/envs/sage-dev/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from
mathics3) (2.32.5)
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mathics3) (1.16.3)
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/home/rashad/.conda/envs/sage-dev/lib/python3.12/site-packages (from
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Using cached mathics3-9.0.0-py3-none-any.whl (3.4 MB)
Using cached mathics_scanner-2.0.0-py3-none-any.whl (168 kB)
Installing collected packages: Mathics-Scanner, mathics3
Successfully installed Mathics-Scanner-2.0.0 mathics3-9.0.0
(sage-dev) >>> sage [develop]
On Sunday, March 15, 2026 at 6:56:06 PM UTC+2 [email protected] wrote:
> Have you uninstalled mathics (i.e. "pip uninstall mathics"), before
> trying Mathics3 ?
>
> There is also a potential problem that "pip install mathics" overwrote
> some already installed packages, then "pip unistall" won't restore
> them.
> There is currently an incompatibility between mathics3 (as installed
> by pip from PyPI, maybe the current development version is better),
> and Sage packages sympy and mpmath.
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 15, 2026 at 10:51 AM Rashad alsharpini2
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > that's what i did and resulted and this weird problem
> >
> > On Sunday, March 15, 2026 at 5:09:32 AM UTC+2 [email protected] wrote:
> >>
> >> You are installing an extremely out of data mathics pip package which
> also forces installation of versions of other packages that are not
> compatible with SageMath 10.9.
> >>
> >> You should run:
> >>
> >> %pip install Mathics3
> >>
> >> instead.. That works for me.
> >>
> >> - Marc
> >>
> >> On Saturday, March 14, 2026 at 11:07:37 AM UTC-5 [email protected]
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> so i have install the package
> >>> `pip install mathics3` and i get this huge error log
> >>> would this be the objective of the project 'Improve integration with
> Mathics'
> >>> or this an isolated error for machine because i can't really i
> identify the error
> >>> i thought it was a mismatch in npmath package but that didn't solve it
> >>> and there are a problem when calling the .sage() function to convert
> the object to a sageobj
> >>> (sage-dev) >>> sage [develop] pip list | grep -i mathics
> >>> Mathics_Scanner 2.0.0
> >>> Mathics3 9.0.0
> >>> (sage-dev) >>> sage [develop] python --version
> >>> Python 3.12.12
> >>> (sage-dev) >>> sage [develop] which python
> >>> /home/rashad/.conda/envs/sage-dev/bin/python
> >>> (sage-dev) >>> sage [develop]
> >>> (sage-dev) >>> sage [develop] ./sage
> >>> ┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
> >>> │ SageMath version 10.9.beta7, Release Date: 2026-02-25 │
> >>> │ Using Python 3.12.12. Type "help()" for help. │
> >>> └────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘
> >>> ┏━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━┓
> >>> ┃ Warning: this is a prerelease version, and it may be unstable. ┃
> >>> ┗━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━┛
> >>> sage: from sage.interfaces.mathics import mathics
> >>> sage: mobj = mathics(x^2 - 1); mobj
> >>>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> AttributeError Traceback (most recent call last)
> >>> File ~/sage/sage/src/sage/interfaces/interface.py:329, in
> Interface._coerce_from_special_method(self, x)
> >>> 328 try:
> >>> --> 329 return (x.__getattribute__(s))(self)
> >>> 330 except AttributeError:
> >>>
> >>> File sage/structure/sage_object.pyx:979, in
> sage.structure.sage_object.SageObject._mathics_()
> >>>
> >>> File sage/symbolic/expression.pyx:1123, in
> sage.symbolic.expression.Expression._interface_()
> >>>
> >>> File sage/structure/sage_object.pyx:723, in
> sage.structure.sage_object.SageObject._interface_()
> >>>
> >>> File ~/sage/sage/src/sage/interfaces/interface.py:294, in
> Interface.__call__(self, x, name)
> >>> 293 if isinstance(x, str):
> >>> --> 294 return cls(self, x, name=name)
> >>> 295 try:
> >>> 296 # Special methods do not and should not have an option to
> >>> 297 # set the name directly, as the identifier assigned by the
> >>> 298 # interface should stay consistent. An identifier with a
> >>> 299 # user-assigned name might change its value, so we return a
> >>> 300 # new element.
> >>>
> >>> File ~/sage/sage/src/sage/interfaces/interface.py:732, in
> InterfaceElement.__init__(self, parent, value, is_name, name)
> >>> 731 try:
> >>> --> 732 self._name = parent._create(value, name=name)
> >>> 733 except (TypeError, RuntimeError, ValueError) as x:
> >>>
> >>> File ~/sage/sage/src/sage/interfaces/interface.py:515, in
> Interface._create(self, value, name)
> >>> 514 name = self._next_var_name() if name is None else name
> >>> --> 515 self.set(name, value)
> >>> 516 return name
> >>>
> >>> File ~/sage/sage/src/sage/interfaces/mathics.py:596, in
> Mathics.set(self, var, value)
> >>> 595 cmd = f'{var}={value};'
> >>> --> 596 _ = self.eval(cmd)
> >>>
> >>> File ~/sage/sage/src/sage/interfaces/mathics.py:579, in
> Mathics.eval(self, code, *args, **kwds)
> >>> 570 """
> >>> 571 Evaluates a command inside the Mathics interpreter and returns the
> output
> >>> 572 in printable form.
> >>> (...) 577 '2'
> >>> 578 """
> >>> --> 579 res = self._eval(code)
> >>> 580 if res.result == 'Null':
> >>>
> >>> File ~/sage/sage/src/sage/interfaces/mathics.py:562, in
> Mathics._eval(self, code)
> >>> 553 """
> >>> 554 Evaluates a command inside the Mathics interpreter and returns the
> output
> >>> 555 as a Mathics result.
> >>> (...) 560 <Integer: 2>
> >>> 561 """
> >>> --> 562 self._lazy_init()
> >>> 563 S = self._session
> >>>
> >>> File ~/sage/sage/src/sage/interfaces/mathics.py:499, in
> Mathics._lazy_init(self)
> >>> 498 self._initialized = True
> >>> --> 499 self._start()
> >>>
> >>> File ~/sage/sage/src/sage/interfaces/mathics.py:514, in
> Mathics._start(self)
> >>> 513 if not self._session:
> >>> --> 514 from mathics.session import MathicsSession
> >>> 515 from mathics.core.load_builtin import import_and_load_builtins
> >>>
> >>> File
> ~/.conda/envs/sage-dev/lib/python3.12/site-packages/mathics/session.py:19
> >>> 17 from mathics_scanner.location import ContainerKind
> >>> ---> 19 from mathics.core.definitions import Definitions
> >>> 20 from mathics.core.evaluation import Evaluation, Result
> >>>
> >>> File
> ~/.conda/envs/sage-dev/lib/python3.12/site-packages/mathics/core/definitions.py:17
> >>> 15 from mathics_scanner.tokeniser import full_names_pattern
> >>> ---> 17 from mathics.core.atoms import Integer, String
> >>> 18 from mathics.core.attributes import A_NO_ATTRIBUTES
> >>>
> >>> File
> ~/.conda/envs/sage-dev/lib/python3.12/site-packages/mathics/core/atoms.py:50
> >>> 47 T = TypeVar("T")
> >>> ---> 50 class Number(Atom, ImmutableValueMixin, NumericOperators,
> Generic[T]):
> >>> 51 """
> >>> 52 Different kinds of Mathics Numbers, the main built-in subclasses
> >>> 53 being: Integer, Rational, Real, Complex.
> >>> 54 """
> >>>
> >>> File
> ~/.conda/envs/sage-dev/lib/python3.12/site-packages/mathics/core/atoms.py:119,
>
> in Number()
> >>> 117 return True
> >>> --> 119 def to_mpmath(self, precision: Optional[int] = None) ->
> mpmath.ctx_mp_python.mpf:
> >>> 120 """
> >>> 121 Convert self.value to an mpmath number with precision ``precision``
> >>> 122 If ``precision`` is None, use mpmath's default precision.
> >>> (...) 127 change the implementation accordingly.
> >>> 128 """
> >>>
> >>> AttributeError: module 'mpmath.ctx_mp_python' has no attribute 'mpf'
> >>>
> >>> During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:
> >>>
> >>> TypeError Traceback (most recent call last)
> >>> Cell In[2], line 1
> >>> ----> 1 mobj = mathics(x**Integer(2) - Integer(1)); mobj
> >>>
> >>> File ~/sage/sage/src/sage/interfaces/interface.py:301, in
> Interface.__call__(self, x, name)
> >>> 294 return cls(self, x, name=name)
> >>> 295 try:
> >>> 296 # Special methods do not and should not have an option to
> >>> 297 # set the name directly, as the identifier assigned by the
> >>> 298 # interface should stay consistent. An identifier with a
> >>> 299 # user-assigned name might change its value, so we return a
> >>> 300 # new element.
> >>> --> 301 result = self._coerce_from_special_method(x)
> >>> 302 return result if name is None else result.name(new_name=name)
> >>> 303 except TypeError:
> >>>
> >>> File ~/sage/sage/src/sage/interfaces/interface.py:331, in
> Interface._coerce_from_special_method(self, x)
> >>> 329 return (x.__getattribute__(s))(self)
> >>> 330 except AttributeError:
> >>> --> 331 return self(x._interface_init_())
> >>>
> >>> File sage/symbolic/expression.pyx:1151, in
> sage.symbolic.expression.Expression._interface_init_()
> >>>
> >>> TypeError: _interface_init_() takes exactly 1 positional argument (0
> given)
> >>> sage:
> >>>
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