On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:31 AM, Marshall Hampton <hampto...@gmail.com>wrote:

>
> It seems best to just file a trac ticket - I'm not sure what the
> downside is to that.  Perhaps we could make a new "milestone" for such
> issues, since they don't quite fit in "feature" or "wishlist". But I
> think it would be confusing to do something apart from trac.


That makes sense to me.

William


>
> -M. Hampton
>
> On Jul 21, 11:20 am, "Dr. David Kirkby" <david.kir...@onetel.net>
> wrote:
> > William Stein wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Dr. David
> > > Kirkby<david.kir...@onetel.net> wrote:
> > >> Sometimes when I create a patch, or look at work of others, I see
> > >> potential issues that might come back to haunt us at a later date. For
> > >> example.
> >
> > >> 1) Whilst updating a polybori patch, I noticed something done some
> time
> > >> back, that I think might have an impact on Solaris. I don't have the
> > >> time to check it fully. It would only happen if Sage is built in debug
> > >> mode. It's hardly a critical issue, but I think it worth noting.
> >
> > >> 2) I'm applying a patch to pari, which involves commenting out a
> couple
> > >> of lines of code that cause hassle on Solaris when building the
> > >> 'modified sage library code'.
> >
> > >> The patch was suggested by William, it does work, but I think it is
> fair
> > >> to say neither of us have really investigated the effect this might
> > >> have. To do so would be huge amount of work, and probably result in
> the
> > >> conclusion it can't hurt.
> >
> > > I can't remember now exactly what I did, but I think that it was *not*
> > > ever my intention that this actually get into Sage.  It was just meant
> > > to be a quick hack to get passed that point and finish building Sage.
> > > One should figure out a correct fix by consulting with the pari
> > > developers who are very very responsive.
> >
> > The problem is, it is not the pari distribution that shows this problem.
> > Pari compiles without any problems.
> >
> > The problem is in the 'modified sage library code', which includes this
> > header file, causes the problem on Solaris.
> >
> > Realistically, it would be better if whoever wrote that library code
> > discussed it with the pari developers, as they know why they included
> > the file.
> >
> > Ignoring that specific issue, what is your thoughts in general about
> > having some sort of trac ticket or other place where people list
> > potential problems for the future? With the best will in the world, if a
> > new issue of Sage was never released without some issues remaining, the
> > rate of progress would drop to a crawl.
> >
> > >> 3) I was going to apply a patch to singular, which is a bit of a hack.
> > >> It will work and will never cause any problems, but it is far from
> > >> clean. A better solution would be to resolve the underlying problems,
> > >> which are probably an autoconf bug or a bug in the singular build
> > >> system. Someone else is looking into that one, but the fix is not
> going
> > >> to be immediate.
> >
> > >> 4) An atlas patch will have a (I believe small) impact on Solaris
> sun4v
> > >> systems, and if Sun can sort out the library, will no longer be
> needed.
> >
> > >> It seems to me there should be a central location where people can add
> > >> to a list of potential problems that might just come back to bit us in
> > >> the future.
> >
> > >> Perhaps one trac ticket 'Potential issues in X' and another 'Potential
> > >> issues in Y' where anyone adds any potential issues they see, which
> > >> might be a problem in package X or Y at some later date, but which are
> > >> of low priority, or unlikely to occur.
> >
> > >> Dave
> >
>


-- 
William Stein
Associate Professor of Mathematics
University of Washington
http://wstein.org

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