On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 7:09 AM, Dima Pasechnik <dimp...@gmail.com> wrote: > here is the response from one of Debian folks
Bill says: >> >>http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support/t/1f055a381532b667#354256... > > This email mentions problem with Ubuntu. Removing the package from Ubuntu > is a totally different issue from removing it from Debian. Thanks Bill for explaining everything, which I greatly appreciate. So the new question (for the list): how do we get Sage out of Ubuntu? -- William > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Bill Allombert <bill.allomb...@math.u-bordeaux1.fr> > Date: 5 March 2010 18:49 > Subject: Re: Fwd: Debian package... > To: Dima Pasechnik <dimp...@gmail.com> > > > On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 08:28:53PM -0800, Dima Pasechnik wrote: >> Dear Bill, >> >> do you know how to handle this? >> We would like remove Sage from debian, as it is horribly >> outdated there, and there is no work being done on fixing >> the debian distribution. > > Hello Dima, Sage is not really in Debian, since the "sagemath" Debian package > is only in the 'unstable' distibution an not in 'testing', 'squeeze' or > 'stable', 'lenny': This is the list of sagemath in Debian: > > sagemath | 3.0.5dfsg-5.1 | unstable | source, amd64 > sagemath | 3.0.5dfsg-5.1+b1 | unstable | hppa, i386, ia64, > powerpc, s390, sparc > > There are 3 critical bugs reported on the package, so no further action is > required, though you can report a bug with severity grave asking it to > be removed because it is outdated. > > However I have some comment on William email below: > >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: William Stein <wst...@gmail.com> >> To: sage-devel >> >> >>> Disclaimer: I'm not a debian user and my intend is not to launch a >> >>> flame nor to disregard the hard work that has been done to have a >> >>> sage debian package. >> >> >>> However, during sage days 20 as well as during my course at the >> >>> university of Rouen, I've got at least a dozen reports of people >> >>> trying to install sage with the standard "dpkg -i". Everything, looks >> >>> fine except that this sage seems to be broken. Maxima simply does not >> >>> start (just try x+1). I'm quite concerned that debian is a quite wide >> >>> spread distro, and that for all these guys the image of sage is >> >>> something huge that simply doesn't work. I was very angry when I >> >>> heard this very argument from a colleague and two students. If >> >>> confirmed, couldn't we make an official request to debian that this >> >>> package is removed from their repositories. This non working sage is >> >>> a very bad publicity... > > If the users really used 'dpkg -i' to install the package, then much probably > it was not the official Debian package, because such package are normally > installed by high-level tools like 'apt-get', 'aptitude' or 'synaptics', that > will take care of downloading and installing the numberous dependencies. > 'dpkg -i' does not and is likely to fail. > > If they actually used 'dpkg -i' they probably downloadied some unofficial > .deb file from some web site (maybe even sagemath.org) and used > dpkg -i *.deb to install it. > >> >> See also: >> > >> > We might make a PPA for Ubuntu. If someone is interested in an easy way to >> > install Sage via dpkg, that might be the best option at this point. >> >> > I agree that removing sage 3.0.5 (or whatever version it is) from Debian is >> > probably best, since our first piece of advice to anyone is to uninstall it >> > and install Sage from scratch. >> >> Yes, +1 to removing sage 3.0.5 from Debian. >> >> But how do we make that happen? > > Cheers, > Bill > > > > -- > Dmitrii Pasechnik > ----- > DISCLAIMER: Any text following this sentence does not constitute a > part of this message, and was added automatically during transmission. > > -- > To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to > sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel > URL: http://www.sagemath.org > -- William Stein Associate Professor of Mathematics University of Washington http://wstein.org -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URL: http://www.sagemath.org
