On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 4:19 PM, Dr. David Kirkby
<david.kir...@onetel.net> wrote:
> William Stein wrote:
>
>> My first worry -- how can you fix the problems that do get reported?
>> Often when people report build problems, those problems are on their
>> personal crufty Linux installs, which they won't or can't give access
>> to, and which can be (mis-)configured in all kinds of ways, or even
>> have faulty hardware.
>>
>>  -- William
>>
>
> It's undoubtedly true what you say about peoples broken Linux installations
> or faulty hardware. Hence a report of a build problem does not necessarily
> indicate a problem with Sage, though if you get several of them, it is quite
> likely to be a problem.
>
> Conversely, if you do as I suggest and wait until there is a report of a
> *successful* build before making an "official" release, a large number of
> these problems could be avoided. In the case of 4.3.4-rc1, you would not
> have received any reports of successful builds on SUSE, Fedora, Mandriva ...
> whatever else.
>
> It needs people to fill in a page like this, which Minh created
>
> http://wiki.sagemath.org/devel/BuildFarm/sage-4.3
>
> and report their success/failure. Wait until there is a successful build
> report from each supported platform before releasing.

That would result in never releasing another version of Sage.   Even
that page you point to above doesn't even come close to covering our
standard officially supported platforms.

> It would be fairly easy to create a similar(ish) web page, where people
> listed what systems they have access to. So Jaap would for example enter
> Fedora and OpenSolaris. Hopefully someone else would have access  to SUSE.
> Then if there are no reports of successful builds on SUSE, a very polite
> email could be sent to those with SUSE access, asking if they have have time
> to build sage-x.y.z.rc0, that they report it, since there has been no
> confirmed successful builds.

And when they fail!?!?!?!?   What, we sit there and wait for the SUSE
users to fix the problems?

I'm just repeating what I said above: if the developers do not have
access to the hardware with the problems, then they can't fix them.

 -- William

>
>
> dave
>
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-- 
William Stein
Associate Professor of Mathematics
University of Washington
http://wstein.org

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