On Oct 5, 2:41 pm, Niles <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I'm interested in implementing some computational algebraic topology
> using Hopf algebroids.  As a warm-up, I thought I would see what
> functionality exists in Sage for coalgebras, comodules, Hopf algebras,
> etc.  What currently exists seems to be placeholder categories (e.g.
> [1], [2]), and some implementation for group algebras (see [3]).  I've
> read through the Category Theory Primer (Draft) [4] and the Categories
> Tutorial (Draft) [5], but none of this leaves me with a good sense of
> how to proceed.  It's clear that someone has a vision of how new
> functionality (like computations with Hopf algebroids) should be added
> to Sage, but it's not clear to me what that vision is (beyond step
> one, which seems to be "make a placeholder category for it").
>
> If I just want to extend Sage's capabilities for, say, Hopf algebras
> (build some new classes for Hopf algebras other than group algebras,
> and add some new generic functionality), what would be the right place
> to start? Or the right example to follow?  Or is there another source
> I should be looking at?  Whatever answer you give me, does the same
> answer hold for comodules over coalgebras, and the like?

First, you might want to post this on sage-combinat-devel and/or sage-
algebra, as well as sage-devel.

Second, I think having something with Hopf algebroids would be great!
Please cc me on any ticket.

Third, the file devel/sage/sage/categories/examples/
hopf_algebras_with_basis.py is an instructive, although brief,
application of the basic Hopf algebra structure.  At least you can see
how to use CombinatorialFreeModule combined with a method like
"antipode_on_basis" to define an antipode.

Fourth, if you want to review <http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/
ticket/10052>, you'll see how I used the Hopf algebra stuff in Sage to
rewrite the implementation of the Steenrod algebra.  (Don't feel any
obligation, but I'm not sure who else to ask to do this...)

A while ago, I polled people about topological ideas that might get
added to Sage: see <http://wiki.sagemath.org/topology>.  Unfortunately
there seems to be nothing about Hopf algebroids (although formal group
laws were mentioned).  If you feel like adding to that page, please
do.

--
John

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