On Friday, April 19, 2013 8:58:15 PM UTC+2, yomcat wrote:
>
> On 20/04/2013, at 4:43 AM, Jean-Pierre Flori <jpf...@gmail.com<javascript:>> 
> wrote: 
> > Dear all, 
> > 
> > We are currently updating the "install from source" doc at #14465, but 
> I'm 
> > a little lost about what to say for Mac OS X, see 
> > http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/14465#comment:4. 
> > It has been previously stated that the "Command line tools" of Xcode 
> were 
> > sufficient and could be downloaded separately form Apple dev site, but 
> it 
> > does not seem to be the case anymore (I've registered there, there's 
> only 
> > Java stuff and old Xcode 3.*). 
> That's odd. My Apple Dev thing (free version) looks like 
> http://yomcat.geek.nz/sage/clt.PNG (that's just logging in at 
> http://developer.apple.com/downloads). 
>
Strange, I just see that: 
http://boxen.math.washington.edu/home/jpflori/mac.png
Not so nice as yours...
Did I screw something up when registering?
Does Apple hate me?

> > First it seems xcode is now free, cannot really check as I have no Mac 
> and 
> > so no access to the Mac App Store. 
> This is true. 
> > Second, from what I see at https://developer.apple.com/xcode/, it's 
> stated 
> > that this "command line tools" part is an optional part of xcode that 
> you 
> > can download from within xcode. 
> Also true. 
> > So it would mean that to get the "command line tools", you need to 
> install 
> > xcode first... 
> It's one way, and the way that I use. However, you can download them 
> directly from Apple, as shown in the screenshot above. 
> > 
> > So should we suggest the user to install xcode and then download these 
> > optional "command line tools"? 
> I say yes, as it seems easier. I have had issues trying to download from 
> the Apple dev site. 
> > Or is this optional part useless once the user has installed Xcode? 
> No. Just installing XCode does not give the command line tools. You need 
> to go into prefs and manually download them. 
>
Yes i got that.
So you confirm that command line tools are needed, just installing Xcode 
without the optional package is not enough.
> Or is there a hidden place from where you can download the "command line 

> > tools" alone as 
> > stackoverflow.com/questions/9329243/xcode-4-4-command-line-toolssuggests? 
> It's not very hidden, though it appears to change monthly, and it's 
> different if you're on Lion or Mountain Lion. 
> > 
> > Best, 
> > JP 
>
> Michael 
>
>

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