On Mon, Jun 02, 2014 at 05:56:35AM -0700, Niles Johnson wrote:
> As I recall, the question of going with a SE site was discussed around
> the time that AskSage launched.  As I recall, the consensus was that a
> fully free QA site was more consistent with the values of the Sage
> community. 

+1

On 02/06/2014 15:12, kcrisman wrote:> 
> As you know, I am also happy to do this.  But it certainly takes a
> team.

+1

As for me, this is the main issue with the current state. We are not
enough collectively involved in maintaining the Sage infrastructure
(e.g. there is no reason that Harald has to do all the job he is
currently doing about web services, i always feel embarrassed to ask him
when i need some update).

I would like to add some arguments : 
- we can administrate askbot the way we want. For example : 
  - there are plenty keywords that are synonyms and, if there was a team
    involved in managing it, we can easily merge them to improve
    searches. Actually a manage command is ready for that.
  - many bugs on trac come from ask users. We can work on interfacing
    them.
- if we have some idea (e.g. develop an antispam), it benefits to all
  the askbot community
- the data are belong to us
- any argument on why you like Sage better than Mathematica can come
  here :)

Here is the current situation about ask.sagemath.org behing the scenes
(or how i see it) : after the spam attack a few, William turned ask off
to save other services from being closed. Niles and Karl Dieter added
the karma threshold to block spammers (which also blocks newcommers, but
at least the website is back online). Also, i upgraded askbot to its
last version in a reprodictible way, which is not straightforward since
our version is very old and some bugs are not well documented, but quite
doable. It allows better spam management since you can now delete closed
posts. Also, it should be quite easy to develop a strong antispam for
askbot (given an bot/author, remove all its posts in a single command).
It is not online yet since we are waiting for a long-term VM to install
the fresh new version (the current one will die during the spring).

It could be a good idea to compare biostar and askbot (they both rely on
the same web framework (django)), and see if a migration can be done in
case this later is better for our needs.

Ciao,
Thierry



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