On 3 February 2015 at 13:00, Ben Hutz <bn4...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm not a member yet of those groups, so my cross-post attempt failed. If
> you could do so that would be appreciated.

Done -- and I also approved your application to join sage-nt!  We set
up sage-nt to discuss number-theory-specific things in Sage, and I
think there are several people who follow that but do not read all
sage-devel.

John

>
> On Tuesday, February 3, 2015 at 4:03:22 AM UTC-5, John Cremona wrote:
>>
>> This would be great to have.  Why don't you cross-post to sage-nt (and
>> perhaps also sage-algebra)?
>>
>> John
>>
>> On 3 February 2015 at 01:59, Ben Hutz <bn4...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I'm interested in implementing Weil restriction (restriction of scalars)
>> > for
>> > affine schemes. I see from #5569, that there is an implementation for
>> > ideals. I'd like to extend this to affine schemes/points/morphisms.
>> > There is
>> > also an aborted attempt of Weil restriction for projective models of
>> > elliptic curves #13266 that does not seem to be going anywhere.
>> >
>> > While the code for the restriction for each of these (affine) objects is
>> > not
>> > difficult, this seems like something that should be implemented as a
>> > functor
>> > as you'd like the resulting schemes/points/morphisms to all play nicely
>> > together. However, I know little about functors in Sage. I've looked
>> > around
>> > in the code a little bit hoping to find an example where something like
>> > this
>> > was done before, but I'm having some trouble. I see where Spec is
>> > implemented as a functor, but I'm not sure that is helpful. I've also
>> > seen
>> > the documentation about which functions a new functor class should
>> > override.
>> > I'm sure I'm going to get this wrong, but as a place to start this
>> > discussion would an implementation look something like this
>> >
>> > 1) create a new functor class WeilRestrictionAffineFunctor which
>> > implements
>> > _coerce_into_domain(self, x)
>> > _apply_functor(self, x)
>> > _apply_functor_to_morphism(self, f)
>> >
>> > although it doesn't seem like any of these three would apply to the
>> > points
>> > of the affine scheme.
>> >
>> > 2) Given an affine scheme A and a morphism f:A -> A, have the methods
>> > A.weil_restriction() and f.weil_restriction() call the functor so that
>> > domains/codomains all match-up nicely? For example, I'd like something
>> > like
>> > this to work
>> >
>> > sage: K.<w>=QuadraticField(3)
>> > sage: A.<x,y>=AffineSpace(K,2)
>> > sage: X=A.subscheme([y^2-x^2])
>> > sage: H=End(X)
>> > sage: f=H([y,x])
>> > sage: P=X(-1,1)
>> > sage: f(P).weil_restriction() ==
>> > f.weil_restriction(P.weil_restriction())
>> > True
>> >
>> >
>> > I'm sure I could make this work manually by caching the weil_restriction
>> > of
>> > a scheme so that a new one is only created when it doesn't already exist
>> > (like 'homogenize' does) but, at least mathematically, this really
>> > should be
>> > a functor. I guess my first question is then: Is a functor the 'right'
>> > choice for implementation of Weil restriction in Sage? If yes, is there
>> > anywhere else in Sage something like this is done from which I can base
>> > this
>> > new functionality?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >   Ben
>> >
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