I worked with urllib3 (bundled with pip) to get rid of the ssl dependency, 
so thats one step towards using pip without ssl. I don't know if pip has 
upgraded the bundled urllib3 or if there are any other ssl dependencies in 
pip though.



On Sunday, May 10, 2015 at 9:55:20 PM UTC+2, Dima Pasechnik wrote:
>
>
>
> On Sunday, 10 May 2015 20:48:23 UTC+1, Volker Braun wrote:
>>
>> On Sunday, May 10, 2015 at 9:39:54 PM UTC+2, Dima Pasechnik wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>    - On the other hand it looks like pip has been incorporated into 
>>>    Python proper. (https://docs.python.org/2/library/ensurepip.html is 
>>>    in 2.7.9)
>>>
>>> Does it mean that the pip spkg could be removed?
>>>
>>
>> Its just an alternative way to install pip:
>>
>> The ensurepip package provides support for bootstrapping the pip 
>> installer into an existing Python installation or virtual environment. This 
>> bootstrapping approach reflects the fact that pip is an independent project 
>> with its own release cycle, and the latest available stable version is 
>> bundled with maintenance and feature releases of the CPython reference 
>> interpreter.
>>
>> In most cases, end users of Python shouldn’t need to invoke this module 
>> directly (as pip should be bootstrapped by default), but it may be needed 
>> if installing pip was skipped when installing Python (or when creating a 
>> virtual environment) or after explicitly uninstalling pip.
>>
>
> As far as I understand, at present pip cannot be installed directly in 
> Sage as it needs ssl. On the other hand it looks that 2.7.9 gets more ssl 
> support. Does it mean that pip can be installed by default if we move to 
> 2.7.9?
>
>   
>

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