On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 1:27 PM, kcrisman <kcris...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Having now read the comment [1] I agree that while it may not be true about
> French universities in general, it was certainly phrased as "my experience"
> and was limited to the relatively narrow technical comment of who
> administrators might feel comfortable allowing access to.  I have already
> been told multiple times here (not in France) that I wouldn't be allowed to
> host things (even a patchbot) so while one might disagree on the wisdom of
> such policies, it isn't limited to any particular nationality, and hopefully
> we can move any further comments about [1] to sage-flame.
>
> However, these comments do touch on something substantive:
>
>> - suggesting that nobody was working on the migration while you know that
>>   we are working to set things up correctly (e.g. remote backup system),
>>   and considering that workers are at your disposal, this is extremly
>>   patronizing [2]
>> - maintaining the confusion between university hosting and the very bad
>>   practices that led us to this situation [3] [4]
>
>
> Namely that GCE might also have some drawbacks (notably, not being provided
> free of charge? perhaps others) and that there were people hoping to make a
> university system work.  If there is a technical disagreement (or more than
> technical) on cloud versus uni, I'm not getting into that, but I don't see
> why we couldn't host in one place and backup in the other (indeed,
> multiple).  What does R do?

I had suggested in private that maybe we use the university systems at
our disposal as a primary service, but with a replicated setup on GCE
for backup.  Nobody I suggested that to seemed interested.

Erik

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