On Friday, October 20, 2017 at 10:13:54 AM UTC+1, Jeroen Demeyer wrote:
>
> On 2017-10-20 10:54, Dima Pasechnik wrote: 
> > Once upon a time, http was not universally supported, one needed to use 
> > ftp instead. 
>
> You misunderstood my point. It is not about http vs. https. 
>
> What bothers me is that "downloading packages from CRAN" is considered 
> so important by R that it refuses to build when that functionality is 
> not available. 


It is a good reason for stopping shipping R with  Sage, provided that we 
can still have the
needed interfaces  up and  running. Otherwise it seems not too meaningful 
to complain about R here.


Regardless of how important pip is to Python, it is still 
> possible to run Python without pip. And it should be like this: the core 
> functionality should be separated from the package manager. 
>

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