Hi,

Le 25/10/2017 à 00:08, Eric Gourgoulhon a écrit :
> Le mardi 24 octobre 2017 20:58:17 UTC+2, Emmanuel Charpentier a écrit :
> 
> 
>     It is true. But we are hoisted by our own petard : from our tutorial
>     <http://doc.sagemath.org/html/en/tutorial/introduction.html> :
>     "The Sage download file comes with “batteries included”. In other
>     words, although Sage uses Python, IPython, PARI, GAP, Singular,
>     Maxima, NTL, GMP, and so on, you do not need to install them
>     separately as they are included with the Sage distribution."
>     I fail to see how this would not apply to OpenSSL (under the heading
>     "and so on")...
> 
>  
> I have the feeling that the current tendency is towards a more modular
> and lighter Sage, which deviates from the original "batteries included"
> philosophy. Maybe the latter should be rephrased as "mathematical
> batteries included". This would exclude standard "technical"  software
> like OpenSSL, which should be provided systemwide.

I'd vote for a strict separation of sage-the-distribution and
sage-the-software : I'm not interested at all in the former, and I think
it hampers the latter for which I care.

Snark on #sagemath

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