On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 3:53 AM, Gerald Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hello Gentlemen!
>
> The dire and dirty deed is duly done.  I have set up a personal SAGE Math
> server, and it should be currently running
> at https://67.23.33.110:8000
> This is a MOSSO cloud server at RackSpace.  RackSpace has a good rep, and
> what they offer and the
> price cannot be beat, and I did a LOT of looking!  Basically, on the cloud
> server I have access to 40 gigs
> of disk space and 1 gig of RAM, and SAGE seems to be running just fine.  RAM
> is the real sticking point as
> having access to that much RAM on a server is typically $100 to $150 a month
> and can run up to $200.  At
> RackSpace, those resources are available for $46 a month and can be upgraded
> or downgraded on a month
> by month basis as needed. There is an additional charge for bandwidth usage;
> $0.22 per GigaByte out and $0.08
> per Gigabyte going in.  Despite making heavy use of bandwidth over many
> hours setting up and testing the server,
> I still managed to use less than a gigabyte and it was mostly coming in, so
> I don't expect that to add a lot to the
> cost.  This is pricey compared with setting up a MOODLE server but a lot
> cheaper than I was expecting to have
> to pay for a working installation. I figure that in practice it will
> probably come to $15 to $20 a week once
> I get my Math Bear Education Initiative on Second Life really going to
> town.
>
> Please check it out if you wish.The admin password is "tachyonics".  So far,
> I have NOT been successful in getting any other accounts set up.
> I am not at all sure just what I am doing wrong.  I followed the examples in
> the manual and entered what I thought were all the
> correct commands, and SAGE seemed to accept the new users, but when I ran
> the notebook server the new accounts were simply
> ignored and I was stuck with the admin one only.  I have also put up 5


I am not much of a notebook user, so please take this with a grain of salt,
but I wonder if the permission on the .sage directory are set up so that others
can read and write to it? For the command line, that directory is used a lot to
store temp files and so on. Maybe the notebook is the same way?



> example worksheets to show various aspects of SAGE.  I have not
> yet attempted to implement any special forms of security, though I have so
> far not succeeded in SSH-ing into the server. I have had to
> use the special control panel accessible through RackSpace's website.  They
> have very good customer service with prompt access to
> technical support via live chat.  That guy went to www.sagemath.com and
> checked out the program, and said I should have no trouble
> setting up SAGE as long as I knew something about setting up such things
> under linux.  I went ahead and signed up for the account,
> but I really don't owe them anything until I have actually used their
> resources and you can keep track.
>
> You basically have your choice of many flavors of Linux and I chose Debian
> (lenny). They set up the operating system for you.
> You can set up as many servers as you like and add or delete them as you see
> fit.  First I used apt-get to install everything from
> the Debian repositories that was latex related and IMHO, likely to be
> useful.  Then I downloaded the appropriate precompiled
> Debian 5.0 64 bit binary build and plopped it into a folder I had prepared
> for it. I took about half an hour. When I ran it, it gave me
> one of those dire messages about being compiled on a different machine and
> missing something which could make SAGE fail sometime.
> I just removed the indicated file and ran it anyway, willing to take the
> risk, as my use is primarily educational rather than oriented towards
> serious
> number crunching.  If I do run into problems later on, I will go ahead and
> install from source. I am not as yet really concerned about security
> as I also have a SAGE server running on my computer (VISTA via VMWare) and
> it isn't accessible to anybody but me. I will keep anything
> important stored on my private SAGE server. I will introduce what ever
> security measures seem reasonable once I get things going.  I need to look
> into that.  I am not sure what all the security measures RackSpace has going
> but that may be a factor. Right now, feel free to play with it as you like.
> I would very much appreciate an informed opinion on the functionality of my
> toy and security issues. And I offer my special gratitude to the "Dr.
> Frankenstein"
> who brought this particular magnificent mathematical monster to life, our
> good Dr. William Stein!
>
> Cheers to All and Sundry,
>
> Jerry (a.k.a. MathBear)
>
> P.S.  For your bemusement, I included a snapshot of my mascot for my
> educational complex. This is the actual form I wear on SL when I am being an
> educator.
> ________________________________
> From: William Stein <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 11:44:44 PM
> Subject: [sage-edu] Re: Grant for a sage server
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 9:35 PM, Pong <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Rob,
>>
>>    Thanks for letting me know. So sagenb is supported by Sun and NSF
>> now?
>
> Yes, by Sun, NSF, and Univ. of Washington (who pays the bandwidth).
>
>>  In that case, I certainly don't feel gulity to have my students
>> sign up and use it then.
>
> Go for it.
>
>>    Haven said that I'm still interested to hear from Jerry on what's
>> the progress on his idea. So Jerry, feel free to contact me offline.
>
> William
>
>
> >
>

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