Thanks very much for this.  Very interesting to discuss with the students
even if the mathematics is way beyond high school.  I think it's important
for them to get at least a little picture of the kind of stuff that's
actually going on these days.  Coming from our secondary curriculum, it's
easy for students to develop the opinion that math is a dead subject where
everything is already known.  They never hear of anything new happening,
unless a new prime number gets discovered.  Hopefully this gives them some
sense that math is actually quite alive these days and that through Sage
they're connected to it.

- Michel

On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 12:37 AM, Thierry Dumont <[email protected]
> wrote:

>
> You can read the following paper about the history of E8 representation
> computation:
> http://atlas.math.umd.edu/kle8.narrative.html
> A large part of the software was written by my late colleague Fokko
> DuCloux:
> http://www.aimath.org/E8/ducloux.html
> The entry for the software his here:
> http://www.liegroups.org/
>
> The code by DuCloux his pure C++ (very beautiful programing !), and took a
> huge amount of coding time to him. For E8, the problem was to find a
> computer with enough memory (about 100 GB), evenf is (read the references)
> it was possible to divide the complexity by 2. The term supercomputer is a
> bit misused: this is a classical computer, with a large amount of memory.
> The code is not parallelized. The Sage group owned such a computer at these
> times.
>
> t.d.
>
> Le 23/01/2011 05:56, David Joyner a écrit :
>
>  On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 10:12 PM, michel paul<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>
>>> In The Geometry of Everything there was the mention of E8.  In the E8
>>> description, in the section called The E8 Calculation, there is a line:
>>>
>>>  "In the end the calculation took about 77 hours on the supercomputer
>>>> Sage.
>>>> "
>>>>
>>>
>>> I was really curious that there was a 'supercomputer' called 'Sage', and
>>> when I clicked the link, well, you get the Sage homepage!
>>>
>>> So, I was wondering, is it true that Sage was used in mapping E8?  Or is
>>>
>>
>>
>> True. For example, see some of the articles linked near the bottom
>> of the wiki page http://wiki.sagemath.org/SAGE_in_the_News
>>
>>
>>  there a mistake somewhere?
>>>
>>> I want to be able to accurately state this to my classes (and the math
>>> department).  In making the case for the importance of a computational
>>> theme
>>> in the current math curriculum, I think this could be cool.  No one's
>>> individual mind can contain E8.  The mathematical objects being studied
>>> these days are too complex to be contained in a merely human mind.  We
>>> need
>>> the computer to be able to perceive these kinds of objects.  The computer
>>> in
>>> math these days is like the telescope in astronomy or the microscope in
>>> biology.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Michel
>>>
>>> --
>>> "Computer science is the new mathematics."
>>>
>>> -- Dr. Christos Papadimitriou
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