Since I see William Stein here, this seems like a good time to say "thank you!" Coming from Maple, I've been working with sage for a few weeks now and am extremely happy with it. I installed it on my home linux box but plan on using SMC this year. My campus is very windows-centric and there's only so much class time. Limited availability is probably the biggest single factor that finally turned me off of Maple so SMC is a huge.
And yes, Steve, I'll be cheering on whatever you have time to share! One of my main goals in the thermodynamics section of PChem is getting students working with more powerful equations of state. Typically what trips them up is the algebra that follows the differentiation. It's just more laborious than what they are used to so it bogs down class/homework time and the ideas get lost. By the time we get to quantum, I'm hoping they have enough facility with this that can work with some python. Karl On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 9:32 PM, William Stein <[email protected]> wrote: > On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 5:24 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hello, > > > > > > On Friday, August 15, 2014 3:54:44 AM UTC-5, kcrisman wrote: > >> > >> Thanks, Jonathan! > >> > >>> > >>> I believe from discussions with him that Steve Singleton at COE college > >>> has converted some of the common Maple/Mathematica/Matlab worksheets > into > >>> sage. His web site is http://www.public.coe.edu/~ssinglet/. > >>> > >> > >> And I believe he has some interest in the notebook as well. > > > > > > I'm late to the thread, but happy to learn of others interested in using > > sage in chemistry. Several people asked for more information about sage > at > > the recent BCCE meeting (I saw Jonathon Gutow), so it sounds like I need > to > > get serious about sharing more stuff. > > > > Echoing or adding to things mentioned earlier in the thread: > > > > I started by translating a lot of T. Zielinski's and J Noggle's MathCAD > > stuff to mma, and then to sage which I've used the past couple years. > I've > > also adapted or written pogil-like activities that utilize sage. All of > this > > hopefully gets students playing with quantum and thermo concepts like > > eigenvalues, orthonormality, data fitting/analysis, some group theory, > etc. > > The goal was/is to go beyond trivial examples that can be solved by hand > and > > use 'real' tools for 'real' problems. > > > > SMC (sage math cloud) is a great way to get going quickly and > > efficiently...no setup problems. I used it almost exclusively last year, > and > > my students *did* use it exclusively. SMC is a full-blown unix env. with > > dozens of tools if you or your students are interested in other areas of > > technical computing. > > > > I'm still figuring out the best work flow for assigning and collecting > > homework with SMC, but William Stein is adding new functionality that > will > > likely make this smoother. > > I spent all day working hard on exactly that. I hope to make a first > release of something for testing tomorrow, if all goes well. > > > > > I keep a local sagenb server running for occasional uses: > > > > - sharing older worksheets; SMC doesn't have a "publish worksheet" system > > yet (I understand it will), but you can distribute sagews files via > transfer > > (git, cp, email, etc) or shared projects. SMC can import sws files if you > > find useful materials on other sagenb servers that pop up in web > searches. > > > > - visualizations requiring 3D. Effort has gone into beefing up the 3D > > capabilities in SMC, but I haven't figured out how to do several things > that > > "just work" with jmol and sagenb. There are only a few exercises (e.g., > > orbitals, ESP, cube files) that are impacted, so I just show these in > class > > with either sagenb or IPython notebooks running on my laptop. (I've > promoted > > the use of contour plots over volume rendering...not really a bad thing > > since nobody uses topo maps any more.) > > > > If there is interest among even this small group, I'm can spend some time > > cleaning up worksheets, seek distribution permission for the translated > > work, and put the stuff on github or elsewhere. Might be nice to have a > > library of materials so we aren't building from scratch. > > > > And thanks to Jonathon and Karl-Dieter for reminding me about an ancient > web > > page in dire need of attention! Another stale project... > > > > Thanks, > > Steve > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "sage-edu" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > email to [email protected]. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-edu. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > > -- > William Stein > Professor of Mathematics > University of Washington > http://wstein.org > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "sage-edu" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/sage-edu/kTn6n2I88hw/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-edu. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-edu" group. 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