Hello Mr. Bard,

Thank you so much for all of these resources - I especially like the idea 
about the 4-variable Venn diagram (as there is a lot of gateways to other 
topics in math and CS that start from Venn diagrams that I think high 
schoolers would find interesting and moderately challenging as well)!
I will definitely look at *Discrete Structures in Math *as well as *Sage 
for Undergraduates*.

I really appreciate the detail and explanation for each of these links - I 
will have to take some time to examine all of them!

Sincerely,
Tanmay
On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 11:46:50 AM UTC-7 [email protected] wrote:

> Hi there! I'm sorry for the delayed response.
>
> I also love Venn Diagrams and discrete mathematics. I had been working on 
> a textbook for discrete mathematics, *Discrete Structures in Math---A 
> Problem Solving Approach*, for several years, but I had to pause it 
> because of the urgent need to update *Sage for Undergraduates*. Though my 
> discrete mathematics coverage has nothing to do with Sage, I think you 
> might find that motivated high-school students are fully able to do most of 
> the problems. (See Ch 1 and Ch 2 here: 
> http://www.discrete-math-hub.com/textbook-in-progress.html .) At some 
> point in the future, I do plan on finishing that book, but the drafts are 
> rather clean. By the way, I think Venn Diagrams are best done with 
> paper-and-pencil... but you could teach some very elementary SQL alongside 
> the set theory, to combine computer science and mathematics.
>
> If you've been studying group theory and discrete mathematics, I think 
> you'll find the 2nd edition of *Sage for Undergraduates* very easy to 
> read. It should be released in August. In Chapter 1, which introduces Sage 
> to the beginner, I deliberately quarantined the calculus until near the end 
> to provide for the possibility of use in high schools. Prof Beezer's book 
> on linear algebra (http://linear.ups.edu/html/fcla.html) is also easy to 
> read.
>
> In Ch 5 of *Sage for Undergraduates*, I teach the reader to program in 
> Python by using Newton's Method (
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton%27s_method 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton's_method>), which requires 
> calculus, as the running example. This could have easily have been instead 
> the secant method (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secant_method), which 
> despite its name has nothing to do with trigonometry. This could give a 
> high-school student exposure to the concept of an iterative algorithm, root 
> finding, and successive approximations. It also lends itself well to 
> graphical explanations, and even animation.
>
> If you like random walks, then you might want to do something with the 
> binomial model of stock prices and pricing stock options. You could combine 
> a bit of finance, a bit of computing, and a bit of mathematics that way. 
> You don't need to know very much at all about stocks to study this topic. 
> There's already an interface where you can get stock data from inside of 
> Sage.
>
> For younger students, I think it would be very good for their critical 
> thinking and even their reading ability, as well as their math, to solve 
> mathematical word problems and puzzles that result in systems of linear 
> equations. The student must analyze the word problem, and come up with a 
> system of equations. Let the computer solve the equations, but then let the 
> student interpret (and verify) the result. Some superb but challenging 
> examples can be found in *Problem Solving through Recreational 
> Mathematics*, by Bonnie Averbach and Orin Chein, re-published by Dover 
> Publications but originally from 1980. Some easier examples can be found in 
> *The 
> Complete Idiot's Guide to Algebra Word Problems Paperback*, by Izolda 
> Fotiyeva 
> <https://www.amazon.com/Izolda-Fotiyeva/e/B005GS7D3I/ref=dp_byline_cont_book_1>,
>  published 
> by Alpha Books in 2010. Actually, for 2 variables and 2 equations, I'd say 
> that the student should solve it by hand, and for 4 equations and 4 
> variables (or larger) let Sage do it. The case of 3 and 3 to be left to 
> those instructors who are more familiar with this age group.
>
> The artificial intelligence method called "model checking," or sometimes 
> "entailment," would combine a bit of combinatorics and a lot of logic. I 
> always wanted to code up something in Sage for problems of roughly 24 or 
> fewer variables. In contrast, a 4-variable Venn Diagram is already hard to 
> draw (
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Venn%27s_four_ellipse_construction.svg 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Venn's_four_ellipse_construction.svg>). 
> In any case, model checking---when done rigorously---uses "certainly 
> false," "certainly true" and "not certain," a way of looking at the world 
> that I have found useful in ordinary life, in stark contrast to boolean 
> logic with only "true" and "false." As algorithms in artificial 
> intelligence go, it's one of the easiest.
>
> As you can see, it took a lot of research to dig up all these resources 
> for you, so I hope you will forgive the delay in responding.
>
> Enjoy your summer!
> ---Gregory V. Bard
> On Saturday, June 11, 2022 at 3:20:22 AM UTC-4 [email protected] wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> My name is Tanmay Kulkarni and I am a rising sophomore. I have also been 
>> taking several extracurricular math classes with Squares & Cubes 
>> <https://www.squaresandcubes.com/> on things like number theory, group 
>> theory, discrete math, and linear algebra. In these classes we have 
>> utilized Sage to explore mathematical patterns. For instance, in my 
>> discrete math class, I used Sage's graph functionality to take a stab at 
>> graph isomorphism, which eventually lead to a magazine article 
>> <https://chalkdustmagazine.com/features/a-walk-on-the-random-side/> on 
>> using random walks on graphs to solve graph *connectivity*.
>>
>> During these various explorations, I realized that Sage was a very 
>> powerful tool to explain and provide intuition for complex mathematical 
>> concepts, however, (a) it is mainly used by those working in higher math, 
>> and (b) there is a high barrier of entry to implement concepts (even ones 
>> in lower math) in Sage.
>>
>> Thus, I wanted to contribute to Sage and* implement specific concepts 
>> which I felt high school students like myself would find interesting,* 
>> and use them for educational purposes (e.g. at my school). Two basic ideas 
>> I thought of were:
>>
>>    1. Random walks. I think mathematics is often far more engaging with 
>>    a visual component (for instance, teaching graphing skills and different 
>>    types of equations through a Desmos art project), and I think when 
>> talking 
>>    about probabilities and randomness, an excellent visual representation of 
>>    stochastic processes is random walks, which are currently not implemented 
>>    in Sage. The other advantage of this is that random walks are often 
>> present 
>>    in other places such as physics (in Brownian motion). This could expand 
>>    into 
>>    2. Venn diagrams. Venn diagrams are incredibly important; however, I 
>>    could not find any Sage implementations of Venn diagrams beyond simply 
>>    plotting intersecting circles. Having a more solid implementation could 
>>    provide a strong, visual intuition for a variety of concepts, like basic 
>>    set theory, logical operators, probability, and even open the door for 
>>    Edwards-Venn diagrams! Such an implementation would utilize Sage's 2D 
>>    graphics (specifically the circle and text functions) as well as the 
>>    detailed Set implementation.
>>
>>
>> Several people who I contacted referred me to this group, and thus I am 
>> wondering if anybody would be generous enough to (a) *provide thoughts 
>> on the feasibility and usefulness* of such an endeavor, (b) *provide 
>> some direction or guidance* as to where to begin, and (c) offer *potential 
>> avenues *where this could be used.
>>
>> Until then, I will be beginning to work on any very simple bug fix I can 
>> find to familiarize myself with developing in Sage.
>>
>> Thank you so much!
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Tanmay Kulkarni
>>
>

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