Hello François,

That explains, I do use ecl 13.5.1 in sage-on-gentoo the “8” decrement 
> matches my observations. 
> I should give a review to that ticket if it hasn’t been done already. 
>

That would be great.  Note that the ECL upgrade ticket (#17003) depends on 
the ECL unicode ticket (#12985) which still needs review too.

Peter

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